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You said she asked you what your situation 
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was. What did you take that to mean? 
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Was I living at home? What was I doing? 
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Why was she asking you that, if you know? 
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I don't know. 
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Did you tell her? 
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I can't recall. 
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Do you know what she -- did you know what she 
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meant when she asked you whether you wanted to make some 
money? In other words, did she explain what she meant 
to you? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
What did she say? 
A. 
She said she had a friend who was a 
billionaire in Palm Beach and if I gave massages, he 
would pay me. 
Q. 
All right. So she, in fact, did explain to 
you that this person wanted a massage? 
A. 
That's correct. 
Q. 
Did 
explain to you whether or not 
you would have to get undressed for the massage? 
A. 
She never -- she never said that. 
Q. 
Did 
express to you or explain to 
you in any way that the person or billionaire that you'd 
be massaging would be in any state of undress; in other 
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words, in his underwear? Naked? Was that discussed? 
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No. 
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What did you respond when she explained this 
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to you? What did you say to her? 
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I can't recall. 
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Did you say anything to incline or to make her 
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think that you would be interested in any way? 
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I exchanged information with her. 
Q. 
When you say you exchanged information, was it 
your phone number? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Did you give her anything other than your 
phone number? 
A. 
I don't remember. 
Q. 
Was that your cell phone that you gave her? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Not your home phone, correct? 
A. 
Q. 
correct, was 
A. 
That's correct. 
And your cell phone at the time, if I'm 
I don't remember. 
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That number that I just said to you though, 
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It sounds familiar. 
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Okay. With respect to the phone number that 
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you gave her, did you tell her to call you at any 
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particular time or make any arrangements for a phone 
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call or appointment at that point? 
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I can't remember. 
Q. 
When is the first time that you talked to he 
again about this issue; in other words, the billionaire 
friend that she had on Palm Beach? 
A. 
I don't remember. 
Q. 
How soon after that first meeting did you talk 
to 
again? 
A. 
I don't remember. 
Q. 
Was it years later? Months later? Days 
later? Weeks later? 
A. 
Days later. 
Q. 
Does she call you or do you call her? 
A. 
I don't remember. 
Q. 
What type of conversation -- tell me generally 
what you all spoke about when you spoke again on the 
phone. 
A. 
I don't remember. 
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Did you make an appointment to go meet or go 
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over to Mr. 
home? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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And what was your understanding of what you 
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were going to be doing when you went there? 
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Can you repeat the question? 
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Sure. When you have that phone 
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have with 
-- let me ask it this way: Did 
she give you any more information in the phone call 
about what the job was going to entail? 
A. 
I can't remember. 
Q. 
Did she tell you at that point whether you 
were going to have to get undressed at all? 
A. 
I don't remember. 
Q. 
Did she tell you at that conversation on the 
phone whether or not the billionaire Palm Beach 
gentleman would be undressed? 
A. 
I don't remember. 
Q. 
Did she give you his name in the phone call or 
in the in-person first meeting? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
When did she tell you his name? 
A. 
I don't remember. 
Q. 
Was it either in the face-to-face you had at 
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the 
or the phone call? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
And what name did she give you? 
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A. 
Jeffrey. 
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Q. 
Did she tell you his last name? 
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A. 
At that point, no. 
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Q. 
All right. So now you have this phone call. 
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I can't remember. 
Q. 
When is the first time that you went to 
Mr. Epstein's home for a massage? 
A. 
First time was when I was a junior in high 
school. 
Q. 
How long a period of time after that first_ 
meeting you had with 
was it that you first-
went over there? Are we talking weeks? Days? Months? 
A. 
Wait. Can you repeat that? 
Q. 
Sure. I'm trying to figure out -- you have 
the face-to-face with 
. That's the first 
time she mentions this whole thing with Jeffrey Epstein? 
A. 
Uh-huh. 
Q. 
Yes? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Then you have a phone call to follow up 
because you had given her the information, correct? 
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A. 
(Nods head.) 
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Yes? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
Okay. And that was within days of the first 
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meeting? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
Okay. I assume at that phone call 
and 
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correct me if I'm wrong -- that during the phone call 
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there was some arrangement made for you to go over 
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there? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
Okay. I'm trying to figure out how soon after 
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the phone call it was that you were to go over there. 
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Days? Weeks? Months? 
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A. 
Days. 
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Q. 
Okay. So within days of the in-face meeting 
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you have a phone call and you were supposed to go over 
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to the house days after, some amount of days after the 
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phone call, yes? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
Got you. Was anyone going to go with you that 
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first time? 
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A. 
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Q. 
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Yes. 
Who? 
A. 
Me, 
or 
and Tony 
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Who is Tony Figueroa? 
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Tony Figueroa is 
's friend. 
MS. 
, as soon as you're at a 
good stopping point, --
MR. 
: Sure. 
MS. 
: -- just get a quick restroom 
break? 
MR. 
: Absolutely. Right now. 
MS. 
: You good? 
MR. 
: Yep. 
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five minutes to 12:00 p.m. 
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The time is 12:02 p.m. 
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Q. 
Okay. We left off the first time you were 
going over to Mr. Epstein's house and you mentioned that 
Tony Figueroa and 
were going to go with 
you? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
Okay. How did you know Tony or did you know 
Tony before that day? 
A. 
I did not know him before that day. 
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Q. 
So the day you were going over to 
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Mr. Epstein's house was the first time you had ever met 
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him? 
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A. 
That's correct. 
5 
Q. 
How old was Tony, if you know? 
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A. 
I don't know. 
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Q. 
Was he older than you? 
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A. 
Yes. 
9 
Q. 
Did he appear to be in his late teens or 
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twenties or is he somebody that was much older, like in 
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their thirties or forties? 
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A. 
Late teens, early twenties. 
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Q. 
And you said that Tony was 
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friend? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
Did you talk to Tony when you first met him 
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that day? 
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A. 
I can't remember. 
19 
Q. 
Did you have any conversations with him about 
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where you all were going or what you were going to be 
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doing that day? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
Tell me about those. 
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A. 
When we were all together, we did talk about 
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where we were going and what we were doing. 
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Uh-huh. 
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A. 
He didn't say anything out of the normal that. 
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hadn't discussed with me prior. 
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Q. 
Okay. So Tony mentioned that you were going 
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to Mr. Epstein's home? 
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A. 
That's correct. 
7 
Q. 
Or Jeffrey's home? 
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A. 
Jeffrey's. 
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Q. 
Did Tony mention to you at that point that you 
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were going to have to give a massage? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
Did he mention anything about having to get 
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undressed? 
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A. 
No. 
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Q. 
Did Tony mention anything about whether or not 
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Jeffrey would be undressed or not? 
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A. 
No. 
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Q. 
I think I know the answer to this question. 
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Had you had any training in giving massages prior to 
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this day? 
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THE WITNESS: No. 
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Q. 
No professional training? 
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A. 
No. 
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Never gone to school for anything like that? 
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No. 
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Q. 
Even to this day? 
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A. 
No. 
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: No, not to this day? 
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Still have not had any training in massages Lo 
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this day? 
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A. 
No. 
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Q. 
All right. So who drives? Was it 
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Tony? 
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A. 
I drove. 
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Q. 
In the pickup? 
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A. 
I can't remember. 
15 
Q. 
Did you go and get them or did they come over 
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to your house and you left from your house? 
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I picked them up. 
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Q. 
Where did you tell your parents you were 
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going? 
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I don't remember. 
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Q. 
Was that first time during a weekend or during 
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a weekday? 
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A. 
I don't remember. 
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Q. 
Was it during the summertime when you were out 
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from school or was it during the school time? 
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You're doing just fine. And I'm going to ask 
a lot of things you probably don't remember, so you just 
tell me and that's a perfectly good answer. Okay? 
What you do remember though is, it was Tony, 
and yourself, you were driving and this was 
the first time that you were going to go to Jeffrey's 
house? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
All right. Were you nervous? 
A. 
I don't remember. 
Q. 
Did you have any expectations of what might 
take place when you went; in other words, did you think 
that there might be something more than what-
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and Tony may have told you? 
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Sure. 
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You can answer. 
Can you repeat the question? 
And Tony told you that you 
were going to have to give a massage, correct? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
To an older man that lived on Palm Beach? 
A. 
Yes. 
Q. 
All right. Did you think there might be a 
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little more to it at that point than just a massage? 
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THE WITNESS: I don't remember. 
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BY MR. 
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Q. 
How did you know how to get to the house where 
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you were going? 
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A. 
And Tony were with me. They gave 
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me directions. 
9 
Q. 
Okay. Describe for me, if you remember, how 
10 
you got there; in other words, did you go over the north 
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bridge? South bridge? 
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A. 
I don't recall what bridge. 
13 
Q. 
When you pulled up to the house for the first. 
14 
time, can you describe for me what you recall it looking 
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like? 
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A. 
There was a driveway, landscape. I want to 
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say it was a pink color, like, a pinkish color. It was 
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huge. A lot of cars in the driveway. 
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Q. 
Through road? Dead end? 
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A. 
It was a dead road, dead end. 
21 
Q. 
You said there were a lot of cars in the 
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driveway? 
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A. 
(Nods head.) 
24 
Q. 
What kind of cars, if you remember? 
25 
A. 
I can recall black. That's all. 
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front of 
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Q. 
Do you remember seeing an Escalade? 
I don't remember. 
Okay. That's fine. Anyone meet you at the 
the house? Security? Anything like that? 
No. 
Describe for me what happened when you 
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arrived, as best you can recall. 
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As best as I can recall, Tony, 
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and I walked to the side of the house, kind of around 
10 
the back, to a door where somebody had opened it for u 
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and it led into the kitchen. 
12 
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Okay. You said the door was already opened. 
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Does that mean that it was unlocked or that it was 
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physically open? 
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A. 
No. Somebody had opened the door, like, met 
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us at the door and opened it for us. 
17 
Q. 
Got you. That person that met you at the 
18 
door, woman or man? 
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A. 
I can't remember. 
20 
Q. 
Do you remember if it was the cook? 
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A. 
No, I do not. 
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Q. 
Did you all call ahead; in other words, did 
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somebody, either Tony or 
call ahead on the 
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way and say, hey, we're almost there or anything like 
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that? 
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I don't remember. 
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Q. 
Okay. Tell me what happens next. So somebody 
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opens the door for you? 
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A. 
Somebody opens the door. From what I can 
5 
recall, we're all, you know, in the kitchen. 
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And then I had ended up upstairs. I'm not 
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sure how I ended up there. 
8 
Q. 
Okay. Was there a staircase leading upstairs 
9 
from the kitchen? 
10 
A. 
From the kitchen? No. 
11 
Q. 
How would you get upstairs after entering the 
12 
kitchen? What different ways are there to get upstairs, 
13 
if you know? 
14 
A. 
You would walk through the kitchen, kind of 
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straight into another room. I don't recall if it was a 
16 
living room or what. And then kind of make a right. 
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And then it would lead upstairs and it would go kind of 
18 
around. 
19 
Q. 
Uh-huh. All right. The staircase leading up 
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that you just described, the one closest to the kitchen, 
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narrow staircase? Wide staircase? 
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Q. 
How would you describe it? 
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A. 
I don't remember. 
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Was the staircase open on both sides? Was 
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there a wall on one side? A wall on both sides? A 
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railing on one side, a wall on the other? How would you 
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describe it? 
5 
A. 
It was, like, three steps and then there was a 
6 
staircase that went one way and the other one kind of 
7 
opened up to another direction. 
8 
Q. 
All right. Do you know where each side went? 
9 
Do you know where each side of the staircase went? 
10 
A. 
Not each side, no. 
11 
Q. 
Where did the right side go to? 
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A. 
I don't know. 
13 
Q. 
Do you know where the left side went to? 
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A. 
No. 
15 
Q. 
Somehow though you ended upstairs? 
16 
A. 
Yes. 
17 
Q. 
And was anyone up there with you? 
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A. 
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Q. 
Had you ever met her before? 
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A. 
Prior to that day, no. 
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So this was the first time that you had met 
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A. 
Yes. 
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And just so we're clear, we're talking about 
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, correct? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
What did 
say to you when you first met? 
3 
A. 
I don't remember. 
4 
Q. 
What did you all talk about? 
5 
A. 
I don't remember. 
6 
Q. 
Did she talk to you about what you were about 
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to do? 
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In other words, did she discuss anything about 
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the massage to you? 
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THE WITNESS: I can't remember. 
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Did you have any conversation with her that 
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first day? 
17 
A. 
I don't remember. 
18 
Q. 
That's fine. 
19 
When you get upstairs, you see 
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Is anyone else with you? In other words, where is 
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? Where is Tony? 
22 
A. 
Downstairs in the kitchen. 
23 
Q. 
So they didn't go up with you? 
24 
A. 
Not that I remember, no. 
25 
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Prior to this day had you known whether or not 
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had gone 
words, whether 
and done this type of thing in the past? 
A. 
No. 
Q. 
You didn't know? 
A. 
No. 
Q. 
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through this before; in other 
had come over to this house 
Okay. When you get upstairs in this home, are 
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you nervous? 
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A. 
I can't remember. 
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Q. 
What did you do next? 
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A. 
After I was upstairs? 
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Q. 
Yes. 
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A. 
Fixed the massage table. 
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Q. 
How did you know how to do that? 
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A. 
I was shown. 
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Q. 
By? 
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A. 
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Q. 
Okay. 
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A. 
And I was shown where the towels were and the 
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oils. And then 
left. 
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Q. 
Where were the towels and oils kept? 
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A. 
Towels, I don't remember. Oils were kept in a 
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bottom drawer in the massage room area. 
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Q. 
Where is the massage room in relationship to 
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where you first were when you remember being upstairs? 
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A. 
I don't understand the question. 
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Q. 
Sure. The first thing you remembered when you 
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got to the house after going through the kitchen is 
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being upstairs? 
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A. 
Uh-huh. 
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Q. 
Okay? I'm wondering, as you're upstairs, 
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where is the massage room in relationship to that? 
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A. 
In a bedroom in a steam room. 
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Q. 
Okay. How big is this area, this massage room 
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area? 
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A. 
Maybe half this size. 
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Q. 
Okay. 
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A. 
Big. 
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Q. 
It's a big room? 
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A. 
It's a big room. 
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Q. 
Size of maybe an average bedroom? 
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MR. CRITTON: Form. 
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THE WITNESS: Yes. 
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BY MR. 
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Q. 
What's in that room? 
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A. 
A shower, a steam room, a closet of some sort, 
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sinks. 
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Q. 
Okay. Some kind of a dresser with drawers? 
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A. 
Maybe. I can't be sure. 
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Q. 
You mentioned the oils were in a bottom 
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drawer? 
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A. 
Uh-huh. 
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Q. 
What type of --
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A. 
It was a tall -- it was tall with several 
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drawers against a wall. 
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Q. 
Okay. How close was that to the table, the 
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massage table? 
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A. 
Close. 
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Q. 
Okay. Did you have to actually set the 
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massage table up with 
or was it already set up 
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when you walked in? 
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A. 
She showed me how to set it up. 
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Q. 
So it was folded up and you all had to unfold 
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it and set it up? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
When you set it up, was there a certain 
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procedure that 
showed you; in other words, how it 
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needed to be done? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
Tell us about that. 
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A. 
You would have to pull out the massage table 
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from the closet that it was kept in. You would 
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straighten out the legs, just put it to where the 
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cushions are facing the roof. And two big towels, one 
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would go on one cushion and the other big towel would be 
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unfolded on the other cushion, kind of like a 
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tablecloth. 
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Q. 
And after that she showed you where the oils 
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were? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
What type of oils are we talking about? 
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A. 
I can't remember. 
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Q. 
Clear? Are they lotion, like, white-colored 
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oils? I mean, what did the bottles look like? Square? 
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Circular? Anything like that? Can you remember any of 
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the names on them? Anything at all that you can tell us 
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about them? 
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A. 
I can't recall. 
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Q. 
You can't recall anything about them, color or 
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nothing? 
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A. 
I can't recall anything about the lotions or 
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oils. 
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Q. 
But they were kept in a bottom drawer? 
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A. 
That's correct. 
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Q. 
Was there anything else that you saw in the 
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bottom drawer when she got out the oils for you that 
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first time? 
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A. 
Yes. 
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Q. 
What did you see? 
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A. 
Massager. 
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