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FBI VOL00009
EFTA01248007
156 pages
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(561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1188f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 21 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00094367 EFTA01248027
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(561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 22 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00094368 EFTA01248028
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(561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) 1(88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 23 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00094369 EFTA01248029
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(561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) 1038f113-5663-4dad-94e740ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 24 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00094370 EFTA01248030
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(561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1188f113-5663-4dad44.7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 25 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00094371 EFTA01248031
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(561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad44.7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 26 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFrAJON4372 EFTA01248032
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(561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 27 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00094373 EFTA01248033
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(561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) 1,88f113-5663-4dad-94e740ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 28 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00094374 EFTA01248034
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■ ■ 12 BY MR. 13 Q. When is the first time that you ever had any 14 contact with Jeffrey Epstein? 15 A. When? 16 Q. Yes. In other words, what grade were you in 17 or how old were you? However you can peg the time in 18 your mind. 19 A. About 16. 20 Q. So would you have been in about tenth grade at 21 that point? 22 A. Tenth going into my junior year, like, towards 23 the end, beginning of 11th. 24 Q. And how was it that you came to know who 25 Jeffrey Epstein was? (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad44.7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 29 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_ONN4375 EFTA01248035
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Page 1 A. I was approached by a: 3 Q. At that point had you just turned 17? 4 A. No. 5 Q. You were still 16 at that point? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q. And III, is ill.? 8 A. I don't know. 9 Q. 10 all? 11 12 not friends. Okay. How did you know A. We went to middle school together, but we were 15 Q. Do you know where she is today? 16 A. No. 17 Q. What were you doing at 19 A. I don't know. 20 Q. Well, is it a members only type of place? 21 A. No. 22 Q. Do you just -- 23 MR. : Wait until he finishes his 24 question. 25 BY MR. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 30 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00094376 EFTA01248036
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Page 2 S 6 7 8 9 10 Q. Q. How do you get in there? A. You walk in. Q. Is there a charge to get into A. Not the day I met no. Q. Had you been there before? A. Yes. Q. How many times had you been there before? A. I can't recall. Was it a place that you went to regularly at 11 that point in your life? 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. Why would you go there? 14 15 Q. Okay. Can you describe to me? I 17 we talking about 18 somewhere? Are we 19 place? 20 A. 21 or was at that point on the beach 22 23 24 They had on Sundays live music. 25 A. To go swimming, listen to music. mean, are we talking about a club? Are a -- somewhere just on the beach talking about a bar? What is this is a tiki bar on the beach had a bar. It had a restaurant. It had a pool. It was a hotel room. I mean, they had hotel rooms available. Q. Okay. When you would go there in the past, (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-94.7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 31 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00094377 EFTA01248037
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Page 1 would you go with friends? 2 A. Yes. 3 Q. Who? 4 A. 5 Q. Anyone else you can think of? 6 A. Not that I can think of. 7 Q. Would you go with or would you go with 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Not . I did go with and at. one point. Q. Okay. When you would go to the beach resort -- and I'm talking about the day before III approaches you now. A. Uh-huh. Q. In the past when you would go there, is it a place you would go just yourself and with friends of would your parents take you there? A. friends. Q. day that you talked to A. Yes. Q. So they were been there before? A. Uh-huh, yes. Usually a place that I would go with my Had your parents ever been there before that familiar of the location and had (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) V8W113-56634dad4404WW17.WM 3501.182-102 Page 32 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00O54378 EFTA01248038
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Page 33 1 Q. And they would also let you go to this place 2 alone? 3 A. With friends. 4 Q. How would you get there? 5 A. Drive. 6 Q. You? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. So you would have -- you had a driver's 9 license at 16? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. Just going back to what we had asked at the 12 beginning. 13 Did you have your own car? 14 A. Yes. 15 Q. What kind of car were you driving back then? 16 Was it the same pickup truck that you had later? 17 A. I don't remember. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 33 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00094379 EFTA01248039
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(561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 34 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00094380 EFTA01248040
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ml ■ ■ ■ ■ 15 16 before the day that 17 18 time for right now. 19 20 21 22 23 24 with friends? 25 A. Yes. Q. Okay. Once again, this is the period of time approaches you about Jeffrey Epstein. I just want to focus on that period of When you would go to this what was the main purpose of you going there; in other words, why were you going? A. To have fun. Q. Go hang out on the beach, get a tan, hang out. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401477476-2895) 1f88f1134663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 35 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00094381 EFTA01248041
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Page • 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (2 • Would you ever drink there at the MS. : Objection. I've already instructed her not to answer this question. You're just using this example as a back doorway into the same question. We're still prior to her meeting If you have a specific question with regard to that day, please go ahead; otherwise, it's the same objection. MR. : Okay. BY MR. Q. When you would go to the don't answer this because she's going to object -- while you were there prior to that day that approached you with Jeffrey Epstein, had anyone ever provided you with any drugs? MS. : Same objections. MR. CRITTON: Form. MS. : Do not answer. BY MR. Q. Same thing, don't answer this until she objects, if she's going to object, which she will. Had prior to that day ever provided you with any drugs? (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401.377-676.2895) 1 f88f113-5663-4dad-S4e7-90flb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 36 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00054382 EFTA01248042
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Page 1 MS. : Same objections. 2 Do not answer. 3 BY MR. 4 Q. And by "drugs," I meant, obviously, illegal 5 drugs or drugs that were not prescribed to you by a 6 doctor. Okay? 7 MR. : Same objection? 8 MS. : Same objection. 9 Do not answer. 10 BY MR. 11 Q. All right. When you would go to the 12 prior to that day that we're going to get. 13 to in a minute, how old were the people that you were 14 going with? 15 A. My age. 16 Q. All right. Anyone that would go with you that 17 was older than you, boys or girls? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. Who? 23 Q. Any boys that would go? 24 A. I don't remember. 25 Q. Any boys that would meet you there? (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 37 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00094383 EFTA01248043
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Page 38 1 A. Don't remember. 2 Q. The times that you went to the 3 4 can you remember any boys that happened to show up there or meet you there or hang out with you while 5 you were there? 6 A. I don't remember. 7 Q. Were there any boys that you socialized with 8 at that point in your life? Just friends? 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. At that point in my life, yes. Q. Who? A. Q • Hang on one second. A. , I think. Q. A. Q. A. Q. A. And the other name? I'm sorry. Can you spell that last name? Anyone else? Not that I can remember. Q. Were and about your age? A. No. Q. How old were they? A. This is going back when I was 16? Q. Yep. We're still at that same point in your is that (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 38 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00094384 EFTA01248044
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1 life right before the day Page 39 approaches you 2 about Jeffrey Epstein. 3 A. They had already graduated high school, so at 4 least 18. 5 Q. How did you know and 6 A. lived the street up from me on the corner 7 house. 8 Q. Okay. 9 • • • • • • • • • • • 21 BY MR. 22 Q. All right. When you would go to the 23 , were there ever any other boys that would 24 show up there and hang out with you guys, other than, 25 say, or (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) 1(88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 39 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00O54385 EFTA01248045
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Page 1 A. I don't remember. 2 Q. Any boys that you can remember that would come 3 there your age; in other words, from school that you 4 knew? S A. I can't recall. 6 Q. All right. You had mentioned that 7 you knew, but she wasn't a close friend at that 8 point, correct? 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. How did you know her, just from school? 11 A. Just from 12 Q. All right. Had you had her in classes before? 13 Was she in social activities and you just knew her? How 14 is it that you knew her? 15 A. I can't remember. 16 Q. Okay. I want you to describe for me and go 17 back to that day in which she approached you, as best 18 you can, exactly how that incident happened. 19 A. I was at the with a couple friends. 20 was walking around and me and her were standing and we 21 were talking. And she had asked me if I wanted to make 22 any money, what my situation was. We exchanged 23 information and we went on our separate ways. 24 Q. Okay. Let me ask you just a couple questions 25 about that. (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377476-2895) 1f88f113-5663-4dad-94e7-90ftb7174075 3501.182-102 Page 40 of 156 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00094386 EFTA01248046