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I lust told him --
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did be come up hers or did you net with Ian in 
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HO came up twee. 
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Oh, be cane up here? 
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Yeah. 
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He set you right home? 
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Not here 
Idi/Svcwant to meet. I met tam at 
9 Wal-Wart and I just -- he just kept asking as questions that 
10 I didn't know the answer to so 
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Was be an investigator? Was he at attorney? 
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I don't know. I don't chink be was an attorney 
13 because be kept saying the information he's getting Iron its 
14 fa going to go to Jeff'e attorney so t don't think he NW an 
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What kind of questions vas he asking? If the 
1$ policy were involved? 
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If -- how the police got ievolved 
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What kind of questions they were asking 
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23 said I don't know because I haven't been questioned yet. 
22 And just like bow old I was whew I went there and basically 
23 like you guys are aeking what I did when I went there 
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Now how old were you when you first started going 
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march of '03, right? 
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7eah. And : turned 19 (inaudible) 
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And did ho question Smith at the seise time? 
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Did the guy? No. 
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Did as ever? 
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No. 
said ehe didn't want to 
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Okay. And he said he sma a representative of 
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Yes. 
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Did he call you ur did Jaffrey or 
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No. he called me. This is the number. it's 
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Uh-huh. 
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Okay. When was this you mot him? 
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Like two, three -- it was Friday or Saturday 
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Did he come by himself? 
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Yeah. 
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Did he tape the conversation? 
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No 
He asked me if be could. I said no. 
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All I had raa my underwear. 
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20. 
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You're 20 
So a couple :Oaths ago you wet:Adhere 
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Yeah.
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Nell, your birthday is it August. 
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0h-huh. 
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3o July, Auqust you %tante have boom 
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0h-huh. 
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So west else happened when you provided him the 
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that's plat .t. Ho had a towel over hie private 
19 parts and he was just 'eying on the table add I was just 
20 messaging free his kneed doom CO. &butt 45 minutes and she 
21 said all : had to do was give ?Ile% a massage for en bout so 
22 theta what I did. And then like teL mutes before we wore 
23 getting ready to leave, he asked her to !ewer heceuey we were 
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25 chest and that's it. He had the towel en Han end about five 
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sight want to give a massage and I said I don't know. Then 
2 he asked r.e about what : wanted to do when I grew up and 
3 stuff like that and 1 asked him what he did and he said he 
4 was like a scientist basically. 
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Well it wou:d have been 16 if it was a year ago, 
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Well it like was almost a year aro. (Inaudible) 
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i had my clothes on. 
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You had all your clothes on? 
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Oh-huh. 
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Okay. Did he touch you in any way? 
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He was like kind of like leaning towards it but I 
20 was like you could tell I was shy so I think that's why he 
21 didn't try. But I heard about other girls that he -- that 
22 he got flirtatious with them and he made them take off their 
23 clothes and stuff. 
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Okay. What 
that was the first time you went, 
25 right? 
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One time. How much did he pay you for that? 
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3300. 
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Okay. All right. He never -- was there ever a 
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No. Like I'm very comfortable with like he asked 
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me that too and he's like are you uncomfortable and like as 
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weird as it sounds I'm very comfortable with myself so like 
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it didn't really bother me. And I needed the money so, you 
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know, my boyfriend and I were having a hard time so I did 
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what I had to do, you know? 
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I understand. I understand. That was the only 
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One time. And I think I dropped her off once and 
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got her an hour later when her car was down or something. 
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Okay. And --
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He had like a massage room, like a bed and like he 
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has this --
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Massage bed or like a bed bed? 
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No, like a massage bed. Uh-huh. A massage bed. 
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Okay. And where was this? What part of the house 
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His house is massive. We went in through the 
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kitchen, up the stairs around, so it was like I guess 
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towards the front on like the second floor maybe. Maybe 
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over the pool or something like that. 
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Okay. All right. When you would go back and do 
the massage, would it, would it maintain the same or were 
more things --
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Well, no. I mean I would take my jeans off a lot 
of times or whatever but that was that. I never slept with 
him. I never did anything to him. Nothing like that. 
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Okay. Is it safe to assume that you provided the 
massage wearing only panties? 
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Yes. 
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Okay. During the massage that you gave him, did 
he ever touch you? 
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Like I mean he would like touch my hip or whatever 
but I mean that, that's really it. 
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And if I ever like asked, if I ever said I wasn't 
comfortable with it, he's like or I don't want you to touch 
me, he'd be like fine. (Inaudible.) 
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And this all occurred when you were 18 though, 
right? 
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Uh-huh. I had been 18 for like eight months, nine 
months already. My birthday's in June so I had been 18 for 
a while. 
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Okay. You're 19 now though right.? 
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Yes. Yes. 
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It was about a year ago when you met him. 
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want to tell you any wrong information. 
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Okay. That's fine. 
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But I don't --
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That's fine. You have not had any contact with 
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No. Only thing I know of her is that 1 guess 
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she's working at (inaudible) now. 
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Did you ever leave your phone number for him to 
call you? 
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No. He never had my number and T never had his 
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Okay. 
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He'd call through 
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Huh-huh. 
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Okay. 
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Were you afraid when you were in there? 
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I wasn't afraid. I guess I should have been 
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No. I could have said no but at that time I was 
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Okay. Obviously this is an ongoing investigation. 
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I would appreciate it if anybody does call you from the 
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house to try to find out information or ask you questions 
about what if the police have contacted you, I would 
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appreciate it if you called me. You have my card, right? 
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I have it somewhere. I'm not sure what I did with 
it though to be honest. 
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Okay. 
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Thank you. 
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Okay. Just a few more questions. 
When you had intercourse, obviously that was 
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went once. 
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Uh-huh. 
Okay. He's never forced himself or forced 
on you? 
No. 
Did you bring anyone to the house? 
Yes. i brought two people but each of them only 
Okay. 
A girl named 
Uh-huh. 
And a girl named 
And? 
Who were those people? 
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But I haven't because I haven't known him that long. 
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Okay. Your first time you went you just sat in 
the kitchen and waited for 
correct? 
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Uh-huh. Yeah. Plus he wanted to meet me. 
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Okay. As you've gone, tell me has anything 
escalated from just a massage? 
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No. Like the first time I went, I waited. The 
second time I went, I stayed in all my clothes and like gave 
him a massage. And then I think it was probably the third 
time I went he asked me if I'd like to get like more naked 
or whatever and I said no. I just didn't feel comfortable. 
After that he never asked me anything that made me feel 
uncomfortable. 
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Do you give the massage in your undergarments? 
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No. 
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Completely clothed? 
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Completely clothed, yeah. 
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Okay. 
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I mean he's asked me but I said no because I just 
don't feel comfortable doing that. 
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No. 
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The closest he came to touching me was giving me a 
hug goodbye. But not inappropriate (inaudible). 
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Massaged what? His --
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His back and his lower back and his feet. 
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All right. Okay. Have you ever seen him naked? 
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No. In a towel but that's it. 
That's it. Has he ever touched you? 
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No. 
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Has he ever touched himself while you were 
massaging? 
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No. He was mostly like on the phone. Like my 
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What did he ask you? 
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He asked me like the third time I went there. 
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If I wanted to get naked or do anything more and I 
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I met -- yeah, but I don't know like I didn't meet 
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