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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 And that number three, in the judgment of the United States Attorneys, the testimony and other information from made necessary to the public interest. And number four, that the aforesaid application has been made with the approval of the Assistant Attorney General in charge of the criminal division of the Department of Justice or a duly designated acting Assistant Attorney General pursuant to the authority vested in him by Title 18, United States Code, Section 6003, and Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 0.175 and 0.132, small e. Now, therefore, it is ordered pursuant to Title 18, United States Code, Section 6002, give testimony and provide other information which she refuses to give or to provide on the basis of her privilege against self incrimination as to all matters about which she may be interrogated before said United States District Court including a grand jury impaneled therein as well as any subsequent proceeding or trial. However, no testimony or other information compelled under this order or any EFTA00085371
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8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 information directly or indirectly derived from such testimony or other information may be used against in any criminal case except a prosecution for perjury giving a false statement or otherwise failing to comply with this order. It is further ordered that this order shall be sealed in accordance with said Federal Regulations Criminal. BY Q Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure. A Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure, it's abbreviated, 6, little e, 6, except that a copy of this order shall be provided to counsel for the United States who may disclose the existence of the order to members of the grand jury, to the witness, to the counsel for the witness, and to law enforcement officers engaged in the investigation pending before the grand jury. Those persons may review the order, but may not retain a copy of the order nor may it disclose the existence of the order to any others. Done and ordered the 16th day of April 2007, at West Palm Beach, Florida. The United States District Judge Donald M. Middlebrook, AUSA. OFFICIAL RrPrIRTTNC: SW121/I B, LLC EFTA00085372
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q All right. So has a copy or has this document been shown to counsel for Ms. A Yes, it has. Q And to Ms. A Yes. Q And will Ms. be here this afternoon? A Yes, she will. Q Have you had a chance to sit with her? A Yes, we have. Q And she has been very forthcoming? A She's very cooperative. Q Okay. I don't have any further questions for the witness. Do you have any questions? All right. Seeing no questions, you are excused and I think that right now you are set to come back at 1 :15. How does 1 :30 sound? Is that all right? THE FOREPERSON: Fine. (Witness was excused.) OFFICIAL prnflpenTmr cc) " T CE, LLC EFTA00085373
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10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER , Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of SPECIAL AGENT taken before the Federal Grand Jury Woqt Palm Floarh Florida Certitled Codtt Reporter OFFICIAL RFPORTTNG RFIRVT E, LLC EFTA00085374
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1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR TESTIMONY OF COPY Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, April 24, 2007 APPEARANCES: Assistant United States Attorney roreperson OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085375
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, April 24, 2007. Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085376
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. EXAMINATION Good afternoon, Ms. Could you state and spell your name for the record? A A address? A Florida parents A And where do you currently live? I live -- do you want me to give the Sure. kest Palm Beach, 33412. Okay. And you are living with your now? Yes. Were you served with a subpoena to appear before the grand jury today? A Yes. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085377
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And do you understand that an order was signed by a judge compelling you to appear and answer questions? A Yes. Q And that order states that what you tell the grand jury won't be used against unless you perjure yourself? A Yes. Q Do you understand that you are under oath, and if you don't tell the truth -- A I can go to jail, yes. Q Okay. Let's start with where you went to high school. A Royal Palm Beach High School. Q How old are you today? A Twenty-one. Q And what is your date of birth? A Q What year did you graduate from A Q And where are you currently working? A I currently am not working. Q But you are starting a new job? A Thursday. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085378
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5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Where will that be? A Fort Lauderdale, Coral Springs. Q What type of position will that be? A Waitressing. Q Have you worked since the time that you graduated from high school? A Uh-huh. Q Can you tell the grand jury what type of jobs you have had? A I worked at Q When you were in high school, where did you work? A Q And do you know Jeffrey Epstein? A Yes, I do. Q Can you tell the grand jury how you first came to meet Mr. Epstein? A I met Epstein through two acquaintances, and , and I met them at a beach resort. They made a proposition to me. Later then I picked them up and they gave me directions to the house and that's where I was formerly introduced OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085379
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6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to Mr. Epstein. Q Okay. And let me just go back over that a little bit. You mentioned that you had two acquaintances, and and you met them at a beach resort, correct? A Yes. Q And you said that they made a proposition to you. What was that exactly? A had asked me if I wanted to make money and she was working for this guy, Epstein, in Palm Beach. So I told her I was interested and she further went into detail about massaging him, that you would have to take off articles of clothing and there would be touching and fondling involved. Q How old were you when this happened? A About 16. Q And how old was A Same age. Q And how did you know A We went to middle school together. Q And she was in your same grade in high school? A Yeah. Q And you mentioned that had OFFICIAL RPPORTTNn SFPVTCE, LLC EFTA00085380
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7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 previously worked for Epstein or was currently working for Epstein? A Yes, that's right. Q So they explained this proposal to you and you said that you would be interested? A Yes. Q What happened next? A Within a couple of days to a week I picked them up and I went to his house to work for him and I was introduced to , who is his assistant. She took me upstairs to Epstein's bedroom and that's where the massage took place. I was naked and he tried fondling me and I wouldn't have it, so after the massage he gave me another proposition to bring girls to the house and for every girl that I brought I would make $200. Q All right. We'll go back over that a little more slowly. I know this is a lot of information. So let's go back to the proposition that and made to you. Did they say you would be paid for massaging Mr. Epstein? A Yes. And how much would you be paid? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085381
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8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A $200. Q Now you said that they had told you that you might have to take your clothing off? A They told me that I was expected to take my clothing off and that there would be fondling. Q Okay. And what -- did they explain what fondling meant? A Just that he'd be touching me. Q Okay. And so you agreed to do that and you went to Mr. Epstein's home? A Correct. Q And where was that located? A Palm Beach, Brillo Way. B-R -I -L-L-O? A Yes. Q And when you arrived at the home, you said that you were driving with and A That is correct. Q Tell us how you got into the house. A We went through a gate on the side of the house that led to the back and we just rang the doorbell and answered the door and we were standing in the kitchen and then brought me upstairs. Q Okay. Now did you have any -- did OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085382
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9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 tell you anything about what you would do when you got upstairs? A No, she never discussed that with me. Q Did she say anything to you about taking your clothes off? A No, she never discussed that with me. Q Okay. When you arrived upstairs, you said that you went into a bedroom? A That is correct. • Q What was in the bedroom? A It was a bedroom that had a door that led to then I want to say a bigger more than just a bathroom. It was a bigger room with like a pretty large size walk-in closet, a shower, a steam shower, and then two sinks on the right, and in the middle laid the massage table, and then to the left there was two couches. • And so the massage table was already set up when you arrived? A That is correct. Q Okay. And after led you up to the bedroom, what did she do? A She had left and that's when Epstein came in. Q Okay. And when Mr. Epstein came in, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085383
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10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 what was he wearing? A He was wearing a towel. Q Okay. And nothing else? A Nothing else. Q And what did he do? A He laid on the table and that's when the massage began and later on he -- when he got in, I took off my clothes and I was just wearing my bottoms, and he later tried to touch me and he grabbed my butt, and that's when I had a problem. I told him that I didn't feel comfortable. So later he took the towel off and he was laying on his back and he started to masturbate asking me to squeeze his nipples really hard to ejaculation and then after that everything was done. Q Okay. So when Mr. Epstein ejaculated then the massage or whatever was over? A Yes, it was. Q And once that happened, what did he do? A Just got up and dried himself off and then walked me downstairs. Q And you got dressed as well? A That's right. Q And when you got back downstairs, what OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085384
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 happened? A I went back into the kitchen and he pulled and aside and then we just 'lift Of course, I got paid. Q Okay. And tell us where you got paid, who paid you, and how much you received? A Epstein paid me. I received 200, but I cannot recall if it was upstairs that he paid me or if he waited until I got back downstairs. Q Okay. And when he paid you the $200, was it in small bills, large bills? A Big bills, 100s. Q Okay. So two 100 dollar bills. And you said that he pulled -nd aside. Do you know what that was about? A He would never pay them in front of me. He always was funny about that. So I'm sure it was just paying them for bringing me. Q Okay. And you mentioned that you told Mr. Epstein that you were uncomfortable with him touching you? A That's correct. Q And what became of that? A Later on before I left he had addressed me to not massage him anymore, but asked me if I OFFICIAL RFPORTTNn RFRVT E, LLC EFTA00085385
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12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 could bring girls over and for every girl that I brought to the table he would pay me $200. Q Okay. So you weren't comfortable with him touching you, so you weren't going to do any more massages? A No. Q He wanted you to find other girls? A That's correct. Q And he wanted girls that would let him touch them? A Uh-huh. Q After that first massage, did you perform any other massages at his house? A Absolutely not.• Q Did you bring girls? A That's correct. Q Tell us how you started to bring girls to Mr. Epstein's house. A Just girls that I met in high school, acquaintances, people that I just said hi and bye to. A lot of them actually heard about it through a couple of girls that I brought and they were interested. Some of the girls asked me about_ it Just girls in school I'd talk to, just get on the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085386
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13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 subject. They had no problem with it. Q Okay. So when you found a girl that you thought would be interested, what exactly would you tell her? A I asked them if they were interested in making extra money and that I knew an older wealthier man in Palm Beach who liked to have massages and they would get paid $200 The more they did, the more they make, and I would explain to them in detail what was expected of them when they showed up at the house and I also told them that if they are under age just lie about it and tell him that you are 18 Q Let's talk first about what you said that you tell them what was expected of them. A Yes. Q First of all, why did you tell them that? A Because that's what I was told. Q By whom? A and Q Okay. And did Jeffrey Epstein ever address you about don't bring girls over here if they don't know what's going to happen? A Absolutely. OFFICIAL LLC EFTA00085387
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14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. So all the girls were supposed to know that when they got there they would be undressing? A They would be undressing. There would be touching. There would be fondling. He was very big on that. He told me never to bring a girl over unless they knew what was expected. Q Okay. And did you also tell them that he would be masturbating? A I didn't really talk to them about that. I didn't know if he did it with everybody or it was just with me that he did that. Q But you told them that they all would have to be partially naked or fully naked? A Partially to fully naked and there would be touching and fondling. Q Okay. How many girls do you think you took to Mr. Epstein's house? A Seven, between seven to ten. Q Okay. And were there any -- in addition to this rule about the girls had to know what was expected, did Mr. Epstein have any other rules in terms of what the girls looked like or what he liked? A No. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085388
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15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. Were there girls that you brought that he didn't like? A There were a few girls he wasn't crazy about. He didn't really like. He didn't favor. for instance, 23, he thought she was kind of too old. Q Okay. So you brought a girl named who was 23 years old? A Yes. Q And you were told that she was too old? A Yes. Q Did you ever bring her back? A No. Q What about any other girls that he didn't like? A This other girl I went to high school with, she was maybe a year younger, and him and her got into an argument about money. I told her in detail what was expected and she, to me, was all for it and then when she got there, decided she didn't want to perform what was necessary. So they got into an argument about money and after that I never really brought her back. Q Okay. And did either Jeffrey Epstein OFFICIAL REPORTING' SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085389
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16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 or say anything to you about what happened with A He had made a comment just about -- I had asked -- he had asked me for someone to come over and work and when I suggested he kind of nodded, not really interested. He told me to find somebody else. So I assumed that meant he really didn't care for her. Q Okay. Now the -- you mentioned who was 23. What was the age range of the other girls that you brought to Mr. Epstein's home? A High school, 16 to 18. Q Were there any girls who were younger than that? A Yes. Q Who was that? A Q And how was she? A She was 14. Q Okay. Now you were interviewed by the Palm Beach Police Department? A That's correct. Q And during that interview, you told them that there were two ways to make money with Jeffrey Epstein. Can you explain to the grand OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085390