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Filing and Security 
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V 
Pnmary Case: 
12 UM 713327 
Serial Number: 
53 
Serialized: 
11/16/2010 
Category: 
Full Investigation 
Initiated: 
10/28/2009 
Details 
Case 710e: 
(U) ROD91GUEZ, 
ALFRED - SEE SUB 
Serial I: 
53 
Type: 
F0302 
From: 
To: 
MIAM,
Document Title: 
ROBERT COUTURIER 
Approval Date: 
11/16/2010 
Classification: 
SN 
Contents 
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ROBERT COUTURIER, business address 
New 
York. NY 1 1 
i ss phone 
nd cellular pho e 
number 
was Interviewed at his design studio at 
above listed location. After being advised of the identity of the 
interviewing agent, and the nature of the interview. COUTURIER 
provided the following information: 
COUTURIER first met JEFFREY EPSTEIN sometime between 
1985-1988 and he was introduced to EPSTEIN by YSABEL GOL SMITH. At 
that time, 
s looking for a designer to decorate his pa 
located at
 Street, Manhattan, NY. COUTURIER was 
interviewed for the job but EPSTEIN did not hire him on that 
occasion. 
COUTURIER and EPSTEIN travel in the same social circles 
and there is a lot of gossip surrounding EPSTEIN. The talk is 
mostly about how much he enjoys the company of young girls a 
women. COUTURIER stated that EPSTEIN always made him feel 
uncomfortable and strange when he was around him so COUTU ER was 
friendly and courteous to him but does not consider EPSTEIN his 
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friend. 
There is no doubt that EPSTEIN is very intelligent and 
can carry a conversation about any subject but there is something 
about him that is weird and off.putting He is incredibly wealthy 
and COUTURIER believes that most people around him do not talk too 
much about him because that type of wealth usually buys power. 
Although people might have information about EPSTEIN they might be 
reluctant to talk; it is easier to excuse his bad behavior or turn 
a blind eye to it. 
COUTURIER stated that about six or seven months ago a 
woman by the name of MM, 
who is EPSTEIN's assistant. 
called him and asked if he would consider taking on the challenge 
of decorating EPSTEIN's place in Manhattan and if he would also 
consider decorating his place in the US Virgin Islands (USVI) 
COUTURIER advised these are just two of the homes he currently owns 
but EPSTEIN also has an apartment in Paris. France and a huge ranch 
somewhere in the Midwest in the U.S. 
COUTURIER stated that by this time, he had heard of 
EPSTEIN's incarceration and thought that EPSTEIN had "paid his debt 
to society' and maybe things had changed with him so he went into 
the meeting trying to be objective. EPSTEIN also stated that to be 
honest. he would be making a lot of money if he took the project. 
The first meeting took place sometime in Apnl or May 
2010 and 
EPSTEIN's assistant, showed him the overall 
plans of the USVI house. Although EPSTEIN was supposed to attend 
the meeting he could not make it so 
handled it 
air
later, EPSTEIN. 
and his other assistant 
LAST NAME UNKNOWN (LNU) all flew from Palm Beach. FL to the 
house on the USVI after the initial meeting. 
Sometime in June 2010. COUTURIER and EPSTEIN plus his 
assistants, flew to the USVI on EPSTEIN's private plane. They took 
it from Palm Beach to the island and stayed there for a day and a 
half. EPSTEIN was very excited and appeared to be like a kid with 
a new toy. COUTURIER recalls that EPSTEIN kept the house very cold 
and his bedroom was white but had no lights in the room. it was 
dark and very austere. The focal point of the room was an enormous 
bed.
EPSTEIN also showed him another room in which he wanted 
to place four beds and wanted to have it decorated in a very 
colorful palette for his girls EPSTEIN told COUTURIER him that he 
does not have any friends and that he does not really like people. 
EPSTEIN stated that he has girls coming to spend time with him in 
the island. EPSTEIN then lamented that 'The girls* are only 
interested in Facebook and MySpace and that he wanted the space in 
this bedroom to be comfortable and have access to the Internet as 
they were online so much COUTURIER did not ask how old these 
girls were or anything about them. He did not ask him any personal 
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COUTURIER stated that on the tight back he grew 
increasingly uncomfortable. Although he did not see any of the 
young girls that EPSTEIN was talking about he was not sure if he 
could do this job for him. COUTURIER added that every time he met 
with EPSTEIN he had his assistants there who are all very 
attractive young women and others unknown to him but all appeared 
to be over the age of 18. 
EPSTEIN also showed COUTURIER his home on 71th street in 
Manhattan. NY as he wanted him to decorate that place also. 
COUTURIER showed him a massage room where he had photographs 
("artistic wantons" according to COUTURIER) of young women in 
the nude, ranging from age 15 through 20 all hanging from the walls 
of this massage room. COUTURIER did not ask him any questions 
about this room and moved on to the rest of the house.
COUTURIER then came back to New York and started out 
drawing plans and although he did not have a contract, EPSTEIN did 
give him a check for $50.000.00 as a deposit for his services. 
COUTURIER stated that his plans went back and forth 
between his offices and EPSTEIN's people but EPSTEIN never seemed 
happy. COUTURIER sent some of his associates back to the USVI to 
take measurements and adjust his plans and EPSTEIN was pleased in 
some aspects but was still highly critical. 
COUTURIER then deaded that this was not the right job 
for him. COUTURIER stated that in the back of his mind. he wanted 
to have "a way our should he decide that he could not work with 
EPSTEIN which was why he did not have a formal contract signed 
EPSTEIN was very diffiant to work with and COUTURIER found that 
EPSTEIN had not changed his pattern of behavior obviously if he was 
having the home in the USVI decorated for girls to stay with tern. 
This did not sit well with COUTURIER. He then wrote EPSTEIN a note 
apologizing for not being able to take on this job. COUTURIER 
Stated that he could not just drop everything or any of his 
projects whenever EPSTEIN wanted him at the site (USVI). EPSTEIN 
was very persistent but COUTURIER was firm in his decision.
In July 2010. EPSTEIN tried to sue him for his deposit 
and he has many attorneys at his disposal who are very aggressive 
COUTURIER'S attomey stated that if they decided to litigate this 
case, it was going to be a long process. COUTURIER decided to 
settle and returned $15.000.00 to EPSTEIN to save himself the 
hassle of litigation. 
COUTURIER stated that EPSTEIN and 
were a couple but 
had broken up At one point COUTURIER had spoken t. 
about her breakup with EPSTEIN. She told him. "I have seen him do 
homfic things" but d:d not elaborate. 
still his 
assistant and they are on friendly terms COUTURIER stated he 
believed that 
although very pretty, was now too old for 
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EPSTEIN even though she is in her 30s. 
COUTURIER stated there are people in New York who are 
outraged about EPSTEIN's lenient sentence for his sex trafficking 
charges. One person who has followed the story and written about 
JEFFREY COUTURIER is CONCHITA SARNOFF, writer for 'The Beast' 
online newspaper, phone number 
. AMY FIENNE-COLLINS 
also wrote an article for *Vanity Fair on child prostitution but 
the article met with much resistance. 
COUTURIER concluded by saying that although this would 
job would have generated a lot of income for his company, he simply 
could not do it and although he tried to remain objective, his 
conscience would not let him continue this project. 
COUTURIER provided the following information regarding 
JEFFREY EPSTEIN's contacts: 
ASSISTANTS 
=M 
(NY) 
NU 
(NY) 
Palm Beach) 
KAREN LNU 
(USVI) 
BRICE LNU 
USVI) 
OTHER EMPLOYEES. 
RICHARD BARNET 
(Butler in NY) 
DARREN INDYKE 
(Attorney) 
RICH KAHN 
(Accountant) 
COUTURIER also provided the following information for 
JEFFREY EPSTEIN.
New York Residence, 9 East 71st Street 
New York, NY 
[email protected] 
Palm Beach Residence: 358 El Bulb Way 
Palm Beach, Ft. 33480 
4015 
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Filing and Security 
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Primary Case: 
72-MM-113327 
Serial Number: 
56 
Serialized: 
09/17/2010 
Category: 
Full Investigation 
Initiated: 
10/28/2009 
Case Title: 
(U) ROD- GUEZ, 
ALFRE 
- SEE SUB 
Details 
V 
Serial 
From: 
Document Title: 
INTERVIEW RE. 
Approval Date: 
9/17/2010 
Classification: 
SN 
Contents 
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56 
Type: 
FD302 
To: 
MIAMI 
ANDREA COROOVES BUSTILLO. date of birth, 
social security number. -
-Delray Beach, Florida. 33444, 
was intery 
d 
at the Palm Beach County Resident Agency (PBCRA) After bei 
advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and the purpose 
of the interview. 
provided the following information. 
attended 
High School during her 
freshman and sophomore years of high school and was home s• 
ed 
during her junior and senior years. Dunng her high school years. 
resided with her family in her parents' home located 
oxahatchee Florida =Ms 
home 
phone number dunng that time period was 
. The 
ne 
number, 
belonged to her friend. 
MM 
was a friend ofIMMIN who was approximately on year 
older than herillillits 
friend CHAZ Last Name Unknown (L U) 
introduced 
and a 
TONY LNU. TONY LNU 
s described 
as approximately 1819 years old at the time 
met him, 
approximately 5'11T5' tall, tan with black hair which was longer 
on top and no tattoos or pierongs. CHAZ LNU lived in Royal Pal 
Beach near a fami store, andl 
and 
met TO 
LNU at 
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CHAZ LNU's home 
TONY LNU approached 
and advised he knew a way 
she could make money by giving a massage to an older man. TONY LNU 
gave 
a phone number to call to set up the massage. At some 
later time. 
called the number and set up the massage 
appointment. MOM. drove ...Into 
a residence located on Palm 
Beach. The first floor of the home was a living area and kitchen. 
emained downstairs while 
went to the upstairs of 
the residence. Approximately 3-4 girls were also present at the 
home when- 
and 
were there. 
could not 
provide a physical description of the girls. The upstairs was brown 
or black in color and furnishings. and the area was a bedroom and 
bathroom. A massage table was set up in the room, and towels were 
laid out. An unidentified older man appeared in the room, wearing a 
towel 
could not recall the name of the man. 
was 
shown a photograph of JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 
identified EPSTEIN 
as the man who appeared in the room wearing a towel. ESPTEIN laid 
on the massage table on his stomach, an
n:iegan the 
massage. 
and EPSTEIN engaged in conversation, and when the _ 
discussion turned toffs 
age,I
did not correct 
EPSTEIN when it was mentioned that the was 18 years old. After 
approximately twe 
minutes. EPSTEIN rolled onto his back for a 
chest massage. 
stated. 'it got weird,' when EPSTEIN began 
masturbabng under the towel. 
backed away when EPSTEIN 
attempted to touch her, and she replied she had a boyfriend. At 
that point, the massage ended, and EPSTEIN paid 
$200.00. 
two one hundred dollar bills that he retrieved from his wa 
wetlI e wed EPSTEIN was mad or angry at how the massage 
ended 
reported that she did not have contact with EPSTEIN 
after the occasion.
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