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FBI VOL00009
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FI/M2atev.54..IM -1 of 6- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of attry 05/14/2020 DOB , was interviewed at One Saint Andrews Plaza, New York, New York. Present for the interview was attorney along with AUSA . After being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: In 1999, was sent to do a model job at a IIIIIIIIIIIIllat The next day or a couple days later, received a call where the man on the other line told her JEFFREY EPSTEIN saw a picture of imimbesiimon 03/04/2020 at New Yrok, New York, United States (In Person) File a 50D-NY-3027571 Datedrafted 05/04/2020 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the properly of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. CONFIDENTIAL 3501.151-001 Page 1 of 6 EFTA_00068885 EFTA01247113
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FD-302a (Rev. 5$10) 50D—NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302of f 0 ) Interview of .0n 03/04/2020 ,ftge 2 of 6 her and wanted to meet her. This man told her that EPSTEIN could help with her modeling and advance her career. This man was trying to convince to meet EPSTEIN. could not recall this man's name but did not recognize his name as someone involved in the modeling industry; this man worked with EPSTEIN. A couple days later, meeting was arranged but thought went to EPSTEIN's home on afternoon. Someone, perhaps the her upstairs to the living room. waited in the living room. EPSTEIN came in the described the room as very ornate with a there was a massage table set up. EPSTEIN made background. told him how she grew up. They talked about modeling and EPSTEIN told her he was friends with LES WEXNER. EPSTEIN told her he could get her into the Victoria's Secret catalogue. did not know if she had her portfolio on her first visit with EPSTEIN or if it was on subsequent visits. When told EPSTEIN about her past, he told her it was ok because he was a taxi driver in the past. said that to make her more comfortable At some point, EPSTEIN left the room and the massage table was in the room. massaged EPSTEIN; he told her how he wanted it. remembered EPSTEIN grabbing her. thought this happened the first meeting but was not sure; did recall that it happened within the first two meetings. did not remember EPSTEIN saying how he knew about her. met EPSTEIN. did not recall how the she may have called EPSTEIN's assistant. 71st Street; she thought she went in the maid or butler, answered the door and led Most of the times saw EPSTEIN, she room and started talking. couch, tables, and sometimes small talk, asking about her did not know if he would get a call from an assistant or secretary to go to massage him. These assistants worked at the Madison location. the Madison location. The women at the Madison location looked had been to professional. thought the name or sounded familiar. EPSTEIN wanted her to get people; he had mentioned he had other properties. felt that it was only ten percent of the time when she spoke with EPSTEIN on the phone to schedule an appointment. EPSTEIN told , "I want to see your portfolio...to help you get into Victoria's Secret.". friend remembered her calling her to tell her about EPSTEIN trying to get her into Victoria's Secret. CONFIDENTIAL felt that it was 3501.151-001 Page 2 of 6 EFTA 00068886 EFTA01247114
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FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D—NY-3027571 Coininustion of FD-30.1 of 1O1 I ntery iew of Mn 03/04/2020 _page 3 of 6 kind of unexpected for her to be going to EPSTEIN's home for massages. Pretty early on, met GHISLAINE MAXWELL. went approximately two to three times a week to massage EPSTEIN. This continued until approximately 2001. felt it began to get worse and there was an incident with MAXWELL that led to wanting to leave. The third or fourth time went to EPSTEIN's home, she met MAXWELL. did not like MAXWELL. MAXWELL was very intimidating; she was scary to had the feeling that MAXWELL ran the place. was confused about MAXWELL and EPSTEIN's relationship; she did not know if they were together or not. MAXWELL and EPSTEIN talked about their travels and they bantered. MAXWELL seemed to be working often saw MAXWELL be near the front thirty percent of never flirted with so much to on of the the first two levels of at EPSTEIN's home. EPSTEIN's house; MAXWELL would house and walk around. the time when was - that's why the MAXWELL was there twenty to there. At this point, MAXWELL incident with MAXWELL stuck out In approximately 2001, recalled an incident that happened with MAXWELL. got a call to go to EPSTEIN's home. When MAXWELL answered the door; MAXWELL was very cold and looked mad. led arrived, MAXWELL to EPSTEIN's bedroom. thought she had maybe only been in the bedroom once before this. There were sex toys on the bed. MAXWELL told her to sit on the left side of the bed. MAXWELL walked back and forth quickly, laying out sex toys. did not know what was going on. MAXWELL laid a strap on dildo on the bed. Then, EPSTEIN entered the room and it progressed from there. MAXWELL and to do. felt that her brain kind of EPSTEIN were talking about what froze. MAXWELL instructed to take off her clothes. MAXWELL put the strap on dildo on and entered vagina from behind. was on the bed and MAXWELL was behind her. felt that it happened really fast. EPSTEIN may have said some things, but MAXWELL just did things during this incident. did not remember MAXWELL saying much afterwards. MAXWELL seemed to snap back to normal a little bit afterwards. did not know if MAXWELL took a picture. that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL just knew what to do. There was no talk about it afterwards. The incident was shocking to because MAXWELL had never done this. MAXWELL was especially intimidating during and after this thought EPSTEIN told MAXWELL some instruction but it seemed CONFIDENTIAL 3501.151-001 Page 3 of 6 EFTA_00068887 EFTA01247115
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FD-302a (Rev. 5$10) 50D-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302 of 1D) Interview of incident. .On 03/04/2020 _page 4 of 6 EPSTEIN would be on the phone a lot. overheard conversations between EPSTEIN and MAXWELL, not necessarily when EPSTEIN was on the phone. overheard them talking about the Royal Family and events. The massages happened in either the living room or the massage room. MAXWELL was present in the bedroom; thought she was only in the bedroom one time. The massages were one on one; there were no other people involved. Generally, EPSTEIN grabbed hard, bruising and squeezing her, while he wanted her to grab him. EPSTEIN gave $200 to $300 per massage. EPSTEIN paid in hundred dollar bills from a drawer on the table. Someone else may have given money but she did not recall a specific memory of that. lived in the for about a year. It was early on that EPSTEIN wanted her to move in there. thought that at one point EPSTEIN told her he owned the apartment building. thought the apartment was bugged; she recalled telling her friend that. described the apartment as being very clean and it seemed like a corporate apartment. saw a vibrator under the bed and thought that was weird. felt scared of EPSTEIN; he was very powerful. EPSTEIN kept pushing to go to the island; felt it was approximately eight times that he pushed her to go. felt that her friend may remember some things because EPSTEIN told her and her friend to eat at a place nearby. The massages continued and EPSTEIN made career promises. flew on EPSTEIN's plane to West Palm Beach; thought this was around but was unsure. could not remember if she flew more than once; she may have flown twice with EPSTEIN. vaguely remembered the flight to West Palm Beach. thought there may have been two other people on board, including an assistant. thought MAXWELL may have been on this flight. At the time, was attending thought a car service, that EPSTEIN used, took her to the airport in New Jersey; she thought she went to Teterboro. met EPSTEIN in front of the plane. thought an assistant, maybe CONFIDENTIAL 3501.151-001 Page 4 of 6 EFTA 00068888 EFTA01247116
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FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302 of 1D) Interview of .On 03/04/2020 _page S of 6 told her that the car service was going to pick her up at a certain time. had used this car service before in interactions with EPSTEIN. When they arrived in Palm Beach, a chef prepared a meal and unpacked. EPSTEIN was near the pool on the phone really loud. thought that within an hour of being there, the massage started. About a quarter of the time, MAXWELL called for massage appointments. MAXWELL also called about the coordination of travel and passport information. Sometimes, one of EPSTEIN"s assistants would book commercial flights to Texas; this was travel unrelated to EPSTEIN. could not specifically remember MAXWELL calling her to organize her travel. did not know if she thought at the time that MAXWELL knew the massages were sexual. Sometimes, MAXWELL was present when arrived to massage EPSTEIN. Looking back, thought MAXWELL did know that the massages were sexual. Early on, MAXWELL showed the massage oil and told her how EPSTEIN liked deep massages. could not recall MAXWELL saying anything sexual at that point. thought she was the only one that this was happening to as she was only at his house a couple hours at the most at a time. recalled a time where she went to EPSTEIN's home and the person that answered the door told her to wait. sat for approximately a half hour near the front door when MAXWELL, EPSTEIN, an a walked in. was shocked; she had never seen another girl there. ran out. friend remembered her crying on the phone to her. In approximately the spring of 2001, left the recalled this was prior to 9/11. and received a letter requesting information to include cell phone numbers, addresses, and all contact information. The letter was typed and had "From the offices of Jeffrey Epstein" on it. had no further contact with EPSTEIN after this. had met her ex-husband around this time and he had helped her move out of the apartment. recalled there was a conversation with EPSTEIN about her leaving. felt that EPSTEIN wanted her out; she thought he was getting tired of CONFIDENTIAL 3501.151-001 Page 5 of 6 EFTA_00068889 EFTA01247117
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FD-302a (Rev. 5-840) SOD—NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302 of ( 0 ) Interview of Mn 03/04/2020 _page 6 of 6 her. There were a couple factors that led to leaving; had met someone and the incident with MAXWELL led to her leaving. remembered a phone call where she was told she had to move out; there was some kind of argument. felt that it was sudden and fast. EPSTEIN talked about the Royal Family and PRINCE ANDREW. talked about a time where she was at EPSTEIN's home and heard EPSTEIN get a phone call that PRINCE ANDREW was coming over. PRINCE ANDREW came over with his security detail and he went to a bedroom. EPSTEIN led to the massage room. EPSTEIN told to visit with a lawyer, ALAN DERSHOWITZ. did not need one so she was confused as to why EPSTEIN told her to go to one. did not think she signed anything. told DERSHOWITZ her background. DERSHOWITZ told EPSTEIN that she was on Medicaid. recalled a conversation with EPSTEIN afterwards where EPSTEIN confronted her, saying, "Oh you're on welfare". was surprised by this. This was in the beginning to middle timeframe of being with EPSTEIN. provided documents including documentation of her stay at the , along with a copy of her passport, and copies of the envelope from the letter she received from EPSTEIN's office. All copies of documents are attached in a 1A. CONFIDENTIAL 3501.151-001 Page 6 of 6 EFTA_00068890 EFTA01247118