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Date of entry 
 
04/23/2020
, date of birth (DOB) 
was interviewed 
Present for the interview was 
attorneys/legal team including 
along with AUSA 
III, AUSA 
, AUSA 
, Special Agent 
, and Detective 
. After 
being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the 
nature of the interview, 
provided the following information: 
hwwigmkeon 11/26/2019 
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at New York, New York, United States (In Person) 
This document contains neither recommendation,: 
to be distributed outside your agency. 
Dated:ailed 
12/02/2019 
mclu, i(ms of the FBI. It is the property or the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not 
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While at the 
met 
restaurant partly as an intern. 
got her this job. 
and 
from
was getting ready to go back to 
that she knew of a couple who needde 
asked 
if she wanted to go see them and go with her. 
they were a wealthy couple. 
EPSTEIN's island while 
was on the island 
MAXWELL, and 
of the specifics. She felt 
that she was going to be 
feeling her out. 
a girl named 
. She worked in the 
later found out that JEFFREY EPSTEIN 
became friends. 
was originally 
and she told 
told her 
agreed and they flew together to 
was on her way to 
for a few days when she met EPSTEIN, GHISLAINE 
shared a room with 
but was not sure 
as though she was a guest. 
was hoping 
It appeared as though they were 
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left the island on EPSTEIN's plane and they all flew to New York 
City. While there, 
stayed at one of EPSTEIN's apartments with 
met EPSTEIN at his Madison Avenue office and he asked her 
about her future and what she wanted to do. 
tried to sell herself. 
From there, they may have went to Palm Beach or Hawaii but 
was not 
sure. She recalled flying on 9/10/2001. 
When back in 
stayed there for about a month before MAXWELL 
called and asked her to fly back to West Palm Beach. MAXWELL asked her 
during this phone call to come "tonight". 
then went to work and 
asked for time off. She flew out the next day as she assumed this was for 
spent the next 3-4 days in West Palm 
Beach. She then kept traveling with them until she was 
EPSTEIN never stayed in one place for more than 3-4 days. 
never went 
back to 
and had someone ship her belongings to her. 
EPSTEIN asked her to draw him a 
bath. EPSTEIN got in the bath then asked 
to get in with him. 
got in the bath with him and EPSTEIN told her that ' 
MAXWELL was giving 
most of the instructions. In New York 
MAXWELL's house in her 3rd floor office. MAXWELL would give 
her a to do list. EPSTEIN was always updating the houses. 
had to 
collect things for these house while in New York. 
She would check in with MAXWELL and get her list of things to do. Things 
were always changing in the houses and there were schedules and a binder for 
each house. There was a project in which 
had to digitize each of 
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these binders. There was another project in which she had to scan in all of 
the old photos. 
would go shopping and run errands. Occasionally, 
would stay at EPSTEIN's mansion while in New York but she primarily 
lived at the 
alone. 
On one occasion, 
had helped to gather things in the basement of 
EPSTEIN's New York Mansion. 
worked at MAXWELL's house until EPSTEIN 
got out of jail. When he got out of jail, 
went to work in his 
mansion. 
In Florida, 
would stay in the guest room upstairs at EPSTEIN's 
home. Earlier on in her employment, 
would wake up at 6AM, get the 
papers, make coffee, get EPSTEIN's breakfast and check in with MAXWELL. 
she would wake up around 9AM then go check with 
with either MAXWELL or EPSTEIN. She would see who she needed to schedule 
for either of their massages, or reschedule meetings. 
would get 
movie times, comedy club tickets, book facials, notify chefs and guests. 
Typically the house manager or 
would answer the phone. There was a 
"3 ring rule" in the house. When they answered they were not allowed to say 
whether or not EPSTEIN was home. There were carbon copy note pads by each 
phone that 
would leave messages on. There were two desk areas in 
which 
would work from, one in the kitchen and one in the living area. 
EPSTEIN would get massages in the mornings after his work out. Then he 
would maybe have friends over for lunch, then maybe go for a bike ride. 
EPSTEIN would then get another massage before his afternoon nap. Then at 
night he would go to the movies or a comedy club. 
Scheduling the massages became 
III pretty much right away. 
MAXWELL, 
and JUAN ALESSI showed 
how to schedule them. There 
was a list taped up in MAXWELL's office. 
was told to call the 
number, tell them "Hi it's 
, I'm calling on behalf of JEFFREY EPSTEIN 
to see if you're available for a massage". EPSTEIN or MAXWELL would tell 
who to call each morning. 
would write this down in her 
notebook along with her tasks for the day. MAXWELL, 
and possibly 
ALESSI previously had this responsibility and it seemed as though they 
taught 
would schedule the appointments for either the day of 
or the day before but not typically the day before. 
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When 
came back the second time to West Palm Beach, 
showed 
how the massages happened everyday and who she would call. 
did not have a sense of who she was calling at first until they actually 
showed up. 
knew them as masseuses. If they could not come, 
would either tell MAXWELL or EPSTEIN or ask the girls if they could refer 
anyone else. Generally, 
was calling individuals themselves and not 
massage parlors. Some girls were regulars, some were not. 
was shown 
how to use MAXWELL's directory or the computer and would get names and 
numbers from them. 
, LESLEY GROFF and MAXWELL would update 
the directory. Sometimes MAXWELL or guests would also get massages. 
Everyone was on the same list whether they were massaging EPSTEIN or 
massaging guests. They were all mostly female; MAXWELL often got massages 
from 
. Some of the repeat masseuses may not have been just for EPSTEIN 
or MAXWELL, 
was not sure. 
presumed these girls had experience. The first time she would 
call she would say, "This is 
, calling on behalf of MAXWELL or 
EPSTEIN...seeing if you're available for a particular time.". 
would 
call from either the house phone or a cell phone. It was sometimes 
difficult scheduling girls depending on their availability. Some of the 
scheduling conflicts that 
recalled hearing included work, soccer, or 
sometimes they didn't give a reason. 
was generally calling their 
cell phones so they would answer the phone. 
was not always present 
when the girls would arrive but generally, they would get to the house and 
ring the door bell by the parking garage near the kitchen. House staff or 
the chef would let them in. 
would take them upstairs 
first time and show them the table, lotions and towels. 
them there and then go tell EPSTEIN that the girl was ready. 
then typically run her errands. Sometimes 
was there when 
done. They would leave right after. 
if it was their 
would leave 
would 
they were 
Sometimes, multiple girls were there; EPSTEIN sometimes asked multiple 
girls to come. Sometimes, both girls went into the massage room with him. 
was not sure if one would come out before the other. 
doesn't 
recall really ever seeing girls/masseuses hanging around the house. 
did see 
coming out of his office by the pool. 
typically 
escorted the girls up right away. When they rang the door bell, it rang 
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through the phones in the house so everyone knew that someone was there. 
was asked if she recalled conversations that she may have had with 
the girls coming to massage. 
stated "not really". She recalled 
asking a girl on one occasion where she was from and she responded that she 
was on break from college in Georgia. 
was asked if she recalled the regulars that would come. 
described one of them being pregnant, and recalled talking to her about the 
pregnancy. 
was asked if EPSTEIN would 
would that go. EPSTEIN would tell 
have a second masseuse to bring. He 
have another masseuse they can bring 
called, "Hi this is 
, wondering 
bring with you" or "someone 
were coming to massage that 
generally EPSTEIN would pay 
discuss payment with them. A couple of times EPSTEIN would ask 
to 
pay. It would be around $200. EPSTEIN kept a bunch of cash in a black 
bag/briefcase. 
would go there and get the cash to pay. He left the 
bag near the desk in the living room area and in the cabana. The girls were 
paid at the end of the session. 
was not sure if both girls were paid 
when two girls were to come to the house. 
ask for a second girl to come, how 
who to call, and ask them if they 
would say, for example, "Ask if they 
with them". 
would say when she 
if you have another masseuse you can 
else". 
had just assumed that if they 
they had some experience. 
believed that 
them. She assumed they were paid. She didn't 
was asked if she recalled some of the names of the masseuses. She 
responded by stating the following names and descriptions: 
..Masseuse, knew she was going to college in West 
Palm Beach. There was a photo of her in New York and 
knew 
she was there. She would occasionally go to the movies with them 
and 
thinks she was the only one invited out. 
father. 
(possible last name) 
...Knew she had a baby and lived with her child's 
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...She called 
on one occasion and asked how much 
would EPSTEIN pay to have sex with one of the masseuses. 
was shocked by this and said no he doesn't do that. 
thought 
dropped the issue. She didn't tell EPSTEIN or 
thought that EPSTEIN would get mad at 
for asking MI6 
anyone about this because she didn't want to upset him. 
felt uncomfortable bringing it up to EPSTEIN. 
They were all kind of in the same rotation. 
thought about if someone came more often then another. 
that the above listed names came more often. 
does not know if she 
did recall 
was then asked about her reactions on when she found out that the 
girls were underage and that there was sexual activity occurring during the 
massages. 
stated that she found out when some of the first news 
articles came out. She was in shock, angry and disappointed. 
No one ever talked to 
about it then and she was never 
interviewed. EPSTEIN never admitted or said sorry. EPSTEIN would show 
the girls' MYSPACE pages where it would say that they were 18. He 
would show 
their profiles in which the girls were involved in drugs 
and risque photos. He was trying to discredit them. EPSTEIN never 
discussed what happened in the room. 
 
 They became 
family in a fucked up way and 
didn't think EPSTEIN would help her 
viewed the girls as her peers, and the same age. It never crossed 
her mind that they were that young. Most were thought to be 
age, 
in her early 20's. There were some men that did massages. 
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Looking back 
said that yes, what should have and did are two 
different things. Nobody around EPSTEIN ever questioned him, or said 
anything was wrong. There were many people around including employees, 
chefs, etc. No one said anything was wrong. EPSTEIN was the head of the 
household and everyone did what he said. Everything in that world was 
different than what 
knew. 
EPSTEIN had 
tell 
that he would pay for a tutor to study for 
the SAT's. 
knew the massages to be normal massages. 
recalled two 
massage incidents that she observed. One in Palm Beach and one at the 
ranch. EPSTEIN would call 
over the intercom to come in and take 
notes. 
did not recall the names of the masseuses but they were 
clothed. EPSTEIN would be on the table and covered with a towel. He 
typically had a phone and notepad next to the table. 
Early on, EPSTEIN asked 
to give him a massage in his bedroom on 
the island. 
was with another masseuse and was to mimic what they 
were doing. 
got paid $200 after. EPSTEIN told her that she could 
make a lot of money being a masseuse but 
wanted to be 
. While on the ranch, EPSTEIN asked 
to massage him. She 
did so by herself and he was on a massage table. 
said this was a 
"normal massage" and she did not associate the massage and sexual activities 
together. 
experience with the massages were not sexual. EPSTEIN 
traveled with a lot of girlfriends. 
observed him getting massages on 
the island outside near the tiki hut. It was typical for him to ask to get 
his feet massaged. 
Sometimes, women would be topless and nude around the island, and by the 
beach. 
gave him a massage. Girls would lay out topless by the 
pool or on the beach. 
did not recall seeing anyone give a massage 
topless. Nothing happened that 
witnessed or saw that led her to 
believe massages were sexual. None of the massages turned sexual for 
. The girls would often call 
and ask when they could come back 
to work or when they would be back in town. Most Palm Beach masseuses 
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didn't travel with them. They would come in for an hour then leave. 
wasn't present when EPSTEIN was getting massages except for the two times 
she was called in. EPSTEIN got massages everyday, stretched everyday; it 
was just part of his life. EPSTEIN was always doing body work. 
did not procure girls. 
met 
the girls when they came to the house for the first time. No one ever asked 
if she had been abused. 
During EPSTEIN's first investigation, prior to him going to jail, 
recalled an occasion in which she was leaving the island. 
airport on St. Thomas and law enforcement stated that they 
. EPSTEIN told her to wait to the side as he talked 
then left and law enforcement did not talk to 
what was said. 
She was at the 
wanted to talk to 
to them. They 
does not know 
DATES AND TIMES ARE APPROXIMATE AND NOT ALL SUBJECT MATTER WAS DISCUSSED 
DURING THIS INTERVIEW. 
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