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Larry Visoski 
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A. Okay. 
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O. And I'm just asking you if you did have 
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knowledge that Jeffrey Epstein was having sex with 
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little girls either on the plane or at a place that you 
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were taking him to or from on a daily basis, that's what 
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he did, would you have continued to be his pilot? 
MR. CRITTON: Let me object. Object to the 
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form. Its argumentative. It has no more value 
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than assuming ho was chopping up bodies or anybody 
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was chopping up bodies in the plane you're flying. 
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What difference does il make? Form. 
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MR. EDWARDS: What difference does it make in 
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a case about him having sex with little girls? I'm 
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not going to argue with you about it. You've 
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stated your objection. 
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MR. CRITTON: Exactly. tt's an argumentative 
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question. 
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MR. EDWARDS: I'm not going to argue with you 
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about IL 
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MR. CRITTON: You're arguing with him about 
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now. 
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MR. EDWARDS: No. I'm asking him the 
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hypothetical. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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Q. Can you answer that? Would you have continued 
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THE WITNESS: Never heard of such a thing. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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Q. Do you know of any friends that he has in 
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France that would send him birthday -- a birthday 
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present? 
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A. No. 
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0. Do you know of him receiving any birthday 
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gifts or birthday people from anyone? 
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A. Never. 
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0. This particular person that filed this 
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complaint, Jane Doe 102, indicates 'Defendant and 
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Ghislaine Maxwell acknowledged and celebrated 
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plaintNf's 16th birthday." 
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Do you remember them celebrating somebody who 
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you flew on the airplane's 16th birthday? 
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A. I don't recall. 
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0. Any of this jog your memory as to who 
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is? 
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A. No. 
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0. "From the age of 15, plaintiff' -- this Jane 
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Doe 102 —'was sexually exploited and abused by 
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defendant on a daily basis and often multiple times each 
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day.' 
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So going back, was there ever a day where you 
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were with Jeffrey Epstein where you could observe him 
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to be a pilot for somebody who's traveling to and Irom 
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destinations with the goal of having sex with underage 
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girls? 
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MR. CRITTON: Form. 
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THE WITNESS: It could be any person. It 
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doesn't have to be Jeffrey Epstein, then, right? 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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0. True. 
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A. No, I wouldn't pilot an airplane If there was 
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wrongdoing going on. 
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0. That you knew about? 
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A. That I knew you about, sure. 
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0. Me reading this complaint to you, is this the 
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first time you've heard these allegations —
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A. Yes. 
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Q. — against Mr. Epstein? 
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A. Yes. 
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0. It goes on to say, 'On one of Epsteln's 
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birthdays, a friend of Epstein sent him three 
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12-year-old girls from France who spoke no English for 
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the purpose of -- for defendant to sexually exploit and 
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abuse. After doing so, they were sent back to France 
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the next day.' 
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Are you familiar with that occasion? 
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MR. CRITTON: Form. 
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and 
during an entire day? 
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MR. CRITTON: Form. 
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THE WITNESS: I don't remember 
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so I couldn't answer the question.
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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0. "In September 2002, Defendant Epstein 
purchased a commercial round-trip airline ticket and 
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provided a passport, U.S. currency and accommodations 
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for plaintiff to fly to Thailand.' 
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Do you remember him doing that for anybody 
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around that time period? 
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A. No, sir. 
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MR. CRITTON: What was the date? 
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MR. EDWARDS: September 2002. 
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MR. CRITTON: Okay, thanks. 
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MR. EDWARDS: I have here and this is 
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actually my only copy, so I don't mind marking it 
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as a composite exhibit, but well either have to 
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copy this while thing or well have an agreement of 
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counsel. It's the visitor ElMale log from when 
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Mr. Epstein was in jail in Palm Beach. 
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MR. CRITTON: Well, before we get started, it 
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IS now 1:15. We started al 10:00. 
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MR. EDWARDS: We didn't really start at 10:0D 
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MR. CRITTON: Shortly thereafter. I was hem 
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pretty much after 10. But we've been hero since 
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10:00. I want to take a lunch break. 
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MR. EDWARDS: Let's do It. 
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MR. CRITTON: For an hour? 
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MR. EDWARDS: Sure. 
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(A break was had at 1:15p.m.) 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
O. Ail fight. I looked through the inmate log of 
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the visitors who visited Jeffrey Epstein and your name 
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appears one, two, three. tour, five, six, seven, eight 
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times. 
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A. Okay. 
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O. Seem to be accurate in terms of how many times 
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you wen! to visit him? 
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A. I thought six, but yes, theta.. 
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O. I'll let you review the records and tell me if 
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you dispute any of that record. And I'll go ahead and 
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mark that as Composite Exhibit 5. 
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(Plaintiffs Exhbit No. 5 was marked for 
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Identification.) 
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MR. REINHART: It's two pages. 
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MR. EDWARDS: Two pages. 
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MR. REINHART: Okay. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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O. Seen accurate? 
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just talked about general happenings that go on in 
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there. 
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O. What did he say? 
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A. It's terrible: it's cold: he can't sleep. 
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They wake him up every two hours. You know, just items 
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like that, uncomfortable things. We talked about the 
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airplanes a great deal. You know, we got major 
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maintenance on the big airplane, so we discussed that a 
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little bit. And then it was realty just how 
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uncomfortable he was there. 
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O. How long did you visit with him on that first 
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visit, July 3rd? 
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A. I think we stayed the full hour. 
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O. All right. Is that what the time allotment 
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was? 
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A. I believe it is, yeah. 1 don't think you 
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could leave earty, or rm not aware that you could lea've 
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early, until later on we found out you could stay for 
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five minutes or longer. But I don't think any of us 
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knew that was - once you got in there, you stayed there 
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for the hour. 
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O. Okay. So you talked to him for an hour and 
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for the most part it was just about the conditions and 
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his disappointment with the conditions? 
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A. Sure, yeah, absolutely. 
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A. Yes. 
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O. Okay. Jeffrey Epstein's plea. I believe, was 
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June 30th, 2008. I Mink that's when he was taken in 
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custody from them. Your first visit Is July 3rd, 2008. 
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And the other name on that visit is Igor Zinoviev. Did 
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you go with Igor to visit Jeffrey Epstein? 
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A. Yes. 
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O. Why did you go with Igor? 
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A. It just happened he wanted to see us both at 
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the same time. There was no apparent reason. 
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O. How did you know that Jeffrey wanted to see 
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you? 
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A. I don't recall who called and told me that he 
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wanted to see me. I couldn't give you an accurate name, 
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whether II was, you know, his attorney, Darren. And 
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actually, I would put a lot weight to I think it was 
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Darren. his attorney. 
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O. That would have made a phone cal to you that 
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said - 
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A. Yeah, to go. 
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O. And what rid you talk about with Jeffrey 
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Epstein four days after he pled guilty to offenses that 
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landed him n jai? 
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A. I think the first visit was how (*appointed 
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or how scared he was, you know, being inside there. we 
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O. And did Igor talk to him as welt? 
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A. Briefly. I mean, not that much. You're going 
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back a tittle ways again to remember exactly what was 
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discussed. You know, he asked how his family was doing. 
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I guess Igor& got a son. I think he asked how his son 
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was doing. You know, just general questions like that 
O. Did you Ode to the jail that day with Igor? 
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A. I believe we did. I believe I met Igor 
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probably at Jeffreys house and picked him up, or if 
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not, we may have met at the airport and drove together. 
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But we did drive together on that occasion. 
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O. In what vehicle dId you dnve? 
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A. The Hummer. 
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Q. That's the vehicle you described earlier as 
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the company vehicle? 
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A. Yes, sir. 
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O. Is that a vehicle paid for by Jeffrey Epstein? 
is 
A. Meaning? 
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a Wet is that a vehicle pail for by you? 
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A. What do you mean 'paid for"? 
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O. Did you purchase the vehicle with your money? 
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A. I didn't purchase that one, no. 
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O. Do you know II it was purchased by Jeffrey 
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Epstein or a corporation of Jeffrey Epstein's? 
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A. Probabty a corporation. 
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MR. CRITTON: Form; move to share. Sounds 
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like a guess. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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0. To the best of your knowledge, that's how most 
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of the items that you've discussed -- that being the 
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Seeing and the Oullstream -- they were usually held In 
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corporate names, to your knowledge? 
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A. To my knowledge, exactly, yes. 
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0. And so when you're saying the -- when you're 
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talking about the Hummer vehicle and you're stating that 
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its likely a corporate entity, is that just something 
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that you're guessing about, or do you have knowledge? 
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A. No, I'm just guessing. 
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0. Okay. 
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A. I have no proof 
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anything like that? 
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A. Exactly. 
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Q. IS it registered to you? 
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A. No. no. 
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0. So it's registered to somebody other than you? 
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A. Exactly. 
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0. Okay. 
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A. I just drive It, I guess. 
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facility that was holding Jeffrey Epstein, they're 
accurate, your name is the first one listed on the top 
of the sheer 
A. Right. There may have been earlier dates. I 
have no idea. 
0. Well, you know, the first date that he could 
have been in there it looks like was 7/1/08 and then, 
you know, so I guess somebody could have seen him 7/1 or 
7/2, but those records were never provided to us. You 
see we were provided a whole big stack. 
A. I understand. 
O. The next date rm going to talk to you about 
is 7/12008. 
A. Uh-huh. 
0. It looks, again. Ito it's yourself and Igor 
Zmoviev? 
A. Mmhmm. 
0. And that's something we talked about in this 
deposition. I'm going b ask you again. I don't know 
that you elaborated last time, what le your 
understanding of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein",
Is that a Mend of his? 
A. I don't know Ms lob Oescrotion. I mean. 
he's somebody that's around a lot. but i don't know his 
exact gob description. His English is, to say, not 
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see him In jail again, and again. Igor Zinoviev is 
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listed as a visitor. Did you go with him together on 
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that occasion? 
A. I didn't even realize it was two days after 
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the first visit. 
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Q. Well, I mean, you see where this is going? 
A. Yeah, I do. It gets further apart, yeah. 
O. Do you remember what the discussion was on 
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7/5/08? 
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A. No, because it's probably similar to the first 
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one. I mean, we talked — actually, one of the visits 
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we talked about fishing and just hying to — you know, 
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we were talking about things that would just occupy his 
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mind with intelligent conversation that he probably 
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wasn't getting there. So for that hour of the day, I 
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tried to give my best of intelligent conversation to 
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him. 
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0. Okay. On his visitor log you were the first 
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one to go visit him. Did you know that? 
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A. I did not know that. I wasn't aware of that. 
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MR. CRITTON: Let me just object to form to 
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the last question. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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Q. Weil, at least if these records are accurate, 
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which are the records that were provided to us by the 
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100 percent, so conversation with somebody that doesn't 
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fully understand you, you know, you get lost in 
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translation a little bit. So I don't --
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0. So on these three visits to the jail, the 
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first three that we're talking about that we've talked 
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about so far. each of those times you traveled to arc 
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from the jail with Igor? 
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A. Mm-hmm. 
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Q. Yes? 
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A. Yes, yes. 
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0. And each of those time, is it fair to say you 
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had some kxm d communication either on the way to the 
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jail or — 
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A. Sure. 
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to the jail? 
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A. Yeah. 
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0. Since you're going to see an inmate in the 
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jail, is it a safe assumption a portion of that 
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conversation was about the person that you're going to 
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see and possibly the crime that was committed? 
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A. Yes, that would be a good assumption. 
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0. Okay. And what was the form 
what was the 
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substance of that conversation that you can remember 
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related to Jeffrey Epstein and the location you were 
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going to visit him? 
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A. I think Igor and I discussed on trying to be 
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upbeat and not look at the position that he's in sitting 
across the table from us, to be upbeat and uplift his 
spirits. 
Q. Did you and Igor discuss whether or not you 
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were going to talk to him about his plea of guilty a 
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the fact that he's not registered as a sex offender? 
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A. No. 
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0. Or whether you were going to stay away from 
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those topics? 
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MR. CRITTON: Form. 
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THE WITNESS: We never 
we don't discuss 
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that amongst ourselves and/or with Jeffrey in any 
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way, loan. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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0. Okay. But that's not — I realize you didn't 
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discuss that. You've told me that. 
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A. Right, but we didn't discuss that oven prior 
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to going in, as you asked. 
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0. Okay. So your discussion was mainly hey, 
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let's be upbeat? 
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A. Yes. 
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0. And that was to, in essence, maintain his 
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spirits or raise his spirits? 
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A. Exactly. 
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a And in the course of that conversance. again. 
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the allegations and the unusual 
call it case 
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against him. that didn't come up between you and 
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Mt Epstein' 
A. I never talked about it with him. 
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O. And at that point In time, what were you aware 
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of in terms of the number of girls that he was alleged 
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to have had sexual 
some sort of sexual retanorehe 
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with him at his Palm Beach house? 
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A. What was the question? How many girls? 
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O. Yeah, how many girls were you —
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A. Aware of? 
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0. -- aware of? 
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A. None. I wasn't aware of any, to be honest. 
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O. The next eat is on 7/17/08 and Ws Igor 
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Znoviev and somebody named Jean Rene and then yourself. 
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Do you know who Jean Rene Is? 
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A. No. 
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0. Do you think that that visit. that you visited 
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hkn at the same time that Jean Rene visited? 
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MR. CARTON: What's the date? 
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MR. EDWARDS: It's 7/17108. 
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THE WITNESS: No. I don't know a Joan Rene, 
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unless somebody came after. I mean, I don't -- I 
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don't know a Jean Rene. 
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0. Okay. And you were doing that as a friend of 
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his, not just his pilot, right? 
A. I felt honored that he asked me to come and 
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give support like that. because prior to him going away, 
it was known to us that there was going to be no 
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visitors, because I had offered to him that I would be 
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happy to come and visit him if he deemed It necessary, 
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and he says no. I'm not going to have anybody. 
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A. I guess it was so bad there, that he may have 
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changed his mind and wanted to have some visitors. 
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Q. When did you have this conversation with him 
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where he indicated he was not going to have visitors 
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while he was in jail? 
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A. I don't exactly remember. It may have been on 
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the trip heading to Palm Beach, the last flight. 
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Q. From his island, from St. Thomas I guess It 
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would be from? 
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A. 'forgot where it started from. It might have 
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been New York or the island, one of the two. I don't 
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remember the last flight. 
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O. And I mean, old at least the fact come up that 
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hey, this a glamors who you're — Is going to be in hill 
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for some time? 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
O. Okay. And then before you visited him again, 
the visitors are listed as 
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0. Manly those two individuals. And they list 
as addresses, 
as their residence? 
A. Uh-huh. 
0. Given your previous testimony, does that 
surprise you that they list those 
that address as 
their residence? 
MR. CRITTON: Form. 
THE WITNESS: I've seen them there, so I mean. 
I'm not surprised. 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
0. Okay. Did you know that they were visiting 
Nth In jail? 
A. No, I di&'t know who was scheduled to see him 
or whatever. 
0. Did Jeffrey talk to you at any point in time 
about 
A. No. not at all. 
MR. REINHART: Can we get a time frame for 
that? Ever? 
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I'm sorry. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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O. I was taking right now about in the 
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conversations that you had with him that we've discussed 
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with you and him in the jail faC' . Did he discuss 
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should talk to anybody about his criminal investigatkit 
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or possible litigation? 
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O. The next time you see him b on August 8th, 
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2008, at the jail. In that occasion It mentions as his 
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visitors that day 
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that time? 
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A. No. Who was on there? Which one are you 
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referring to? 
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O. The next one, I tried to highhght them just 
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so that — 
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A. Right, that one. 
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MR. REINHART: 8/9. 
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0. 8/9i08? 
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at the house. 
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O. Those are cars that Jeffrey Epstein owns, to 
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your knowledge? 
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A. I don't know who owns them. 
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O. What cars are there that -- I know with this 
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case we're dealing with a lot of corporations and Its 
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not like asking me, Hey, what car do you own? But what 
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cars are you aware that are -- that you believe are used 
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prImanly by Jeffrey Ereteln? 
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A. Used primarily by Jeffrey Epstein, a Mercedes 
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S500 sedan. I don't remember the year on that one. 
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O. Okay. 
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A. There's a Cadliao Escalade. 
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O. Okay. 
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A. Those are his two main cars that he would be 
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driven in or --
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O. What are the other cars that you reguiarty see 
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parked at his Palm Beach mansion, if there are any? 
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A. It would be a whole array. Half the time the 
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parking lot is full because of construction workers. 
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yards keepers. 
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O. Okay. Fair enough. What vehicle does 
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drive or-drive 
when they're down 
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here, you known 
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A. I mean, anybody has a choice to pick out a car 
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don't remember which one it was. II was ether the 8 or 
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the 16. and then the other ono I met everybody there. 
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So I can't be accurate on which erne we all drove 
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together. 
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O. How did you coordinate driving together? 
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you want to meet at Jeffreys house and we all drive 
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together? Does a make sense to get together and drive 
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one car. 
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O. Is that jail visit the result ol Jeffrey 
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Epstein requesting your presence Mere, Of rs that the 
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result of you wanting to go see him as a friend in jail? 
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A. A combination of both. I'm sure if I said, 
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Hey, rd like to come to jail and veil you, that ho 
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would either say yea or nay. 
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O. Okay. And you saki at least on one of those 
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occasions you rode to and Irom the lad with =and 
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O. And during any of 
obviously, when you're in 
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the car together — well, who's driving the car? 
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A. I was driving, I believe. 
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driving a Mercedes 
convertible. 
O. Is that different than the Mercedes $500 
sedan? 
A. Yes. I think it's different. 
O. When you say they have basically a choice of 
cars to drive - 
A. Well, there's cars in the lot there. 
O. Obviously, they can't get in one of the 
construction workers' cars? 
A. No. 
MR. REINHART: Let him finish his question. 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
O. So that's kind of what I'm getting at. What 
other cars do you think that Jeffrey Epstein has --
whether it's titled. I don't know -
0. Right. 
O. 
but he is the person In control of that 
vehicle? 
A. Right. 
O. What other vehicles do you think he's 
controlling in Palm Beach? 
A. In Palm Beach? 
O. We've named the Mercedes S500 sedan, Cadillac 
Escalade? 
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A. Right. 
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0. And Eve identified a Mercedes convertible? 
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A. Right. 
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0. In addition to that. are there any others that 
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you're aware of? 
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A. That he's in control of? 
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and yourself about the reason why 
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Jeffrey Epstein is In jail? 
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MR. REINHART: Can we get a time frame? 
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MR. EDWARDS: At any time. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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0. At any time have you ever had that exact 
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conversation ever come up? 
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A. No. we didn't talk about that among ourselves 
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really. 
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Q. And have you ever been told that= 
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provides the role of a sex slave to Jeffrey 
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Epstein? That's just her role in life? 
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MR. CARTON: Form. 
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MR. REINHART: That's just have you been told 
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that. 
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THE WITNESS: No. 
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he utilizes various people, schedulers, pilots. 
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handlers and other associates and co-conspirators 
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that have a similar mentality: that is, people that 
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do not agree with laws related to sex abuse and 
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abuse of children. And that's why this line of 
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questioning regarding whether or not this witness 
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has a motive or a bias or was involved in 
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conversations related to his motive or bias, to 
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continue to work for Jeffrey Epstein or believed 
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the same beliefs of Jeffrey Epstein, is at least 
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reasonably calculated to the lead the discovery of 
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admissible evidence, and that Is the argument at 
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least along those fines being made to the judge 
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regarding these questions. 
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MR. CRITTON: Can we talk for just one minulo'l 
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Because maybe — can I talk with — well, I know 
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can talk with Bruce. Let's Just take a break. 
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(A break was had al 2:45 p.m.) 
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MR. EDWARDS: We're be* on the record. Do 
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you have the same position? 
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MR. REINHART: Let me say this: He previously 
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said he would have never allowed anything on the 
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plane to be done elegaRy. II you want to ask If 
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he agrees with the law applied by the 
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legislature — do you agree the law passed by the 
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Q. Do you have any — based on your observations, 
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do you have any other opinion as to what rote she plays 
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in Jeffrey Epstein's life, if any? 
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A. I don't have an opinion on what the role is. 
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0. Do you agree with the criminal statutes that 
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are in place to protect young children from sexual 
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predators? Do you agree with those statutes? 
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MR. CRITTON: Form. 
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MR. REINHART: IM going to direct him not to 
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answer the question. Its irrelevant and it's not 
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likely to lead to discoverable evidence what his 
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opinion is on a law Chars been passed by the 
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legislature of Florida. 
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don't know that we did this last time, but It's 
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been alleged in the complaint 
k has been 
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alleged in several complaints that Jeffrey Epstein 
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panicularly prays on vulnerable disadvantaged 
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females, underage females, and that in order to 
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gain access to the multitude of underage females, 
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THE WITNESS: I don't know what the law is. 
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0. Okay. The laws In place to protect children 
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under the age of 18 from being sexually touched, 
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fondled, molested by people over the age of 24, do you 
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agree with those laws? 
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A. Yes. 
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0. And you agree that persons who commit a 
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violation of those laws should be prosecuted? 
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A. Persons that do that. 
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0. Yes, persons that do that. 
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A. Persons that do that, absolutes/. 
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0. And if you were to receive confirmed 
what 
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you would perceive as confirmed information that Jeffrey 
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Epstein was one of those persona, would you continue to 
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be erriployed by or alongside of Jeffrey Epstein? 
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MR. CRITTON: Form; speculation. 
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THE WITNESS: You're pawning that there's 
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gut 
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0. No. I'm saying, hypothetically, if you were 
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which he pled guilty to 
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MR. CRITTON: Form. 
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MR. REINHART: Can we -- for purposes of your 
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hypothetical, what facts do you want him to assume 
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are true? You said the facts to which he pled 
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somebody under the age of 18. 
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solicitation of prostitution of a minor? 
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MR. CRITTON: No. I think you've got it 
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wrong. III object to the form. 
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MR. EDWARDS: Okay. 
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you were to believe based on informati0n and evidence 
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that Mr. Epstein engaged in sex or some form of sex acts 
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with people of the age range of 12, 13, 14. 15 years 
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old, would you continue your employment with 
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Mr. Epstein? 
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MR. CRITTON: Form; speculation. 
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THE WITNESS: I would certainly be speculating 
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against him and the allegations contained within many of 
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these civil complaints on behalf of girls who were under 
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the age of 18? Is there any reason why you haven't 
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discussed that? 
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MR. REINHART; If that's based on 
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conversations you had with your lawyer, then don't 
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disclose what you and your lawyer talked about 
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A. I have not spoken to Jeffrey about any of 
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this, and it was my understanding that is illegal to 
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have conversation about this. So I've never presented 
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any questions to him reference this case or any others. 
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0. It was your understanding that it was illegal 
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to talk to Jeffrey Epstein about the allegations made 
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against Jeffrey Epstein? 
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A. Yes, or anything to do with the case. That's 
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why we never discussed any portions of it. 
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Q. Okay. So --
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A. I may be wrong In that assumption, but I 
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don't --
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Q. So the reason why you haven't discussed this 
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with Jeffrey Epstein is you believed it was illegal? 
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A. Correct, yes. 
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Q. Who led you to believe that it was illegal? 
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and I have to dleCuss ft with my wife long and 
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hard. I don't think I could give you a correct and 
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honest answer at this tine. 
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0. Okay. Given the allegations that have been 
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made in this case, is this something that you have 
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discussed with anyone other than your attorney? 
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A. No. not really. Only from the fact that 
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drey're allegations and there's still a lot more work, 
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rm sure, to be discovered. 
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MR. CRITTON: Let me put on there, for the —
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If this deposition is not typed -- and we request 
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it -- rd like at least this portion where 
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Mr. Edwards' last question back about five pages 
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worth, so just if you could mark it from ells 
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page back about five pages. 
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If nobody requests the deposition, rd just 
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like those five pages. 
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MR. EDWARDS: I'm going to request the 
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deposition, so... 
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MR. CRITTON: Okay. We'll mark this then, so 
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you could tell me where it is. approximately. 
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with Jeffrey Epstein the allegations that have been made 
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MR. REINHART: Again, if it was a discussion 
you had with any lawyer, then you can just give a 
name, don't give a discussion of the conversation 
you had. 
THE WITNESS: It was my own assumption. I 
mean, just basic criminal knowledge of knowing 
you're not supposed to -- you know, it somebody's 
in trial or in a deposition or whatever, I don't --
I didn't think it was appropriate to discuss the 
matter with them. 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
Q. Okay. So the next two visits and I think the 
last two visits we'll talk about are on 9/6/2008. 
Actually, it looks like you visited him twice in one 
day; is that right? 
A. I don't think that's possible. I mean, that 
will show how accurate the court record is. There's no 
way. 
Q. You wouldn't have visited him twice in one 
day? 
A. No. I think there's only one visitation per 
day. 
0. Okay. And It looks like the same visitors 
each time, except that it says for period three and then 
the next one's for period four. So there are two 
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different periods. Was there over a time when they 
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allowed you to stay for more than an hour? 
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A. No, not to my knowledge. 
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same questions: Did you ever ask them their 
involvement with Jeffrey Epstein? 
A. Absolutely not. 
0. And again, what was the discussion with 
Jeffrey Epstein along with 
and 
A On the last visits, it was mainly airplane 
stuff and later on in the visitations, we were advised 
that you could leave early, so I would only stay for 
maybe 30 minutes and then, you know, Jeffrey would 
continue his conversations with them and then I would 
just wait outside. 
0. Okay. 
A. So I would do my business with him talking 
about airplanes or whatever I had coming up and then 
exit. 
0. And then why did you slop visiting him in jail 
after that September 6th, 2008, visit? 
A. I was never called back to visit. 
0. Okay. Well, shortly after that then he was on 
work release? 
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telephone, how frequently would you talk to him? 
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A. How frequently during a given week? 
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0. Yeah. 
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A. More specific? 
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0. Sure. 
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A. Depends upon what's going on that week. 
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everyday? 
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A. No. 
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going from the jail to the Florida Science Foundation 
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and back, and It you're not going to see him In person, 
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and you're not corresponding by e-mail, then would you 
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correspond by telephone, that either being you call him 
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or he called you? 
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A. Yes. 
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typical week like? I mean .-
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A. Flow many times? 
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A. Maybe once in a week, sometimes twite in a 
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day. I mean, it would vary. There was no routine. 
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0. And what would the conversation be? 
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ik Mostly we discussed audio and video, TVs, home 
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theaters. Its a niche of his and we're constantly 
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A. Well, that's true. 
0. Right? 
A. Yeah. 
0. So the next times you would have gone to see 
him would have been at the Florida Science Foundation, 
where we talked about earlier? 
A. I've seen him there, yes. 
0. Okay. And in fact. I think you said you saw 
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over the last two years, last year and a 
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half or so? 
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A. Yes. 
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Florida Science Foundation and talc to him? 
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A. Like my original answer. ten, fifteen minutes. 
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0. Okay. And how frequently would you talk to 
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Jeffrey Epstein while he was at the Florida Science 
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Foundation? 
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person or al conversations? Because ho testified 
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he had phone conversations and personal visits. 
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conversations. So when you would call him on the 
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looking at new items that are out there, you know. 
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what's the biggest LCD flat screen out there. 
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Q. Okay. And since he's been out of jail and on 
community control or house arrest or whatever it is, 
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where he's located at his home now, have you visited him 
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at his home? 
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A. I have been to the home. I haven't visited, 
but I have had work to do there. 
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there? 
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A. Once I think I've called the house. Normally 
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he calls me because its usually he needs me to do 
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something. 
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since he's been out of jail? 
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A. Let's put a stereo in the gym, lees put a TV 
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In the living room, let's put a bigger stereo in the 
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gym. let's put a bigger, bigger stereo in the gym, let 
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go redo what we've done. It's always audio. He's a 
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very audio file person. 
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0. Do you know of any other modifications that 
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he's made to the house at 358 El Bello since the time 
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that he went into jail? 
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THE WITNESS: Meaning? Be more specific. 
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BY MR. EDWARDS: 
Q. Structural modifications, architectural 
modifications? 
A. Starting what date? 
O. June 30th, 2008. 
MR. REINHART: I think the question on the 
table was have you observed any structural changes 
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to the house at El Brillo since Mr. Epstein went to 
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changeS to the house. to the interior of the house since 
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he went to Jail? 
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A. No. I mean, it you could be more specIfc. I 
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mean. you're talking furniture or? 
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Q. I've never been In the house, so I can't be 
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much more specific. Have you noticed any changes from 
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before he went to jail to after he went to jail, the 
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Inside of the house, that you could be specific about? 
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A. No, I can't be specific. 
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A. No, I don't. Ifs not my airplane. 
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Q. We still don't know whose airplane it is yet. 
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The tine when you took Mr. Epstein to Miami in the last 
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month, do you know which attorney ho was going to sect? 
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A. No, I do not. 
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civil cases or criminal cases or anything else? 
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A. No idea. 
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Q. Do you know where the location was in Miami 
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that he was going to? 
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A. No, I do not 
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Q. Other than yourself visiting Mr. Epstein at 
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the Florida Science Foundation, are you aware of any 
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other visitors, people that visited him? 
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A. No, I'm not. Just whoever was there during my 
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visit. 
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O. Okay. Are you aware of a corporation named 
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the Zoao Trust? 
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A. rve heard the name. 
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relative to your invoNement with Jeffrey Epstein? 
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A. Yes. I mean, I don't even remember where I 
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heard Zorro Trust. I have no definition of it, but I 
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know the name is out there. 
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MR. REINHART: I think Mr. Visoski can expand 
on his previous answer. Why don't you expand. 
THE WITNESS: Can we go baCk to that one? 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
0. Sure. The question dealt with the structural 
architectural changes you're aware of. 
A. There has been a kitchen extension, but when 
:-: 
you asked the question, I was unaware of when that 
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actually took place. So to be accurately answering your 
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question, I know there's been a kitchen extension. I 
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don't exactly know when that transpired, but... 
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you know this happened? 
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A. I knew what the kitchen looked like before and 
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after the extension and I don't 
I thought it was 
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during the hurricane season when they actually did that 
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extertskm. 
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A. Nobody. I just walked in the kitchen and 
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noticed a bigger room than what it was. 
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Q. All right. Do you know who Marlin Nowack is? 
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A. No. 
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Q. Do you ever remember him being on your 
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airplane, or that name of somebody being on your 
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affiliated or restated to Jeffrey Epstein in some way? 
A. I have no definition. I don't know who it is. 
0. Do you know how you heard about it? 
A. I don't remember. That's going back in the 
early days of when Zorro existed. 
0. Who was at the Florida Science Foundation when 
you would meet with Jeffrey Epstein on these meetings? 
A. 
would be there. 
0. Anybody else? 
A. Story would be there on occasion. That's 
pretty much it. 
Q. And would they be in the same room with 
yourself and Jeffrey Epstein when you had conversations 
with hcm? 
A. No, not really. Not particularly. 
0. They would just be at the location? 
A. Sure, yes. 
O. Anybody else that worked there or was 
affiliated wet, the Ronda Science Foundation that you 
know of? 
A. Not to my knowledge. I mean, I do my business 
and get in and get out 
Q. Can anybody other than Jeffrey Epstein have an 
office at the Florida Science Foundation? 
A. Not that I know of. 
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0. All right. And were you deeded the properly 
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that we spoke about earlier on the New Mode° ranch? Is 
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that deeded to you? 
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A. Yes. 
Q. And has It been since back in, I think you 
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said 1998 or 1999 or whenever it was? 
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A. Yes. 
0. Okay. And do you know — and did you build a 
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house on it then? 
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A. Yes, I did. 
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0. Okay. And that's a property that I think you 
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said you have a mortgage on It. that's a property that 
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you pay -- you mortgaged that property? 
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A. Yes. sir. 
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here, you have a mortgage on that properly as well? 
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A. That Is correct. 
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0. Alt right. Are you familiar with a vehicle. a 
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Chevy Suburban 1503. year 1999? 
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A. Do you have a color? 
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0. No. I can tell you the ;Ate. I could tell 
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you the VIN. Chevy Suburban -- Chevy Suburban 1500, 
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registered to Larry Vlsoski? 
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A. That would be mine. That's a while one, then. 
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0. Well, we've just described this wide array of 
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cars that Jeffrey had for people to use --
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A. Well you sakl for him to use. 
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Q. Is there a reason why? 
MR. CRITTON: Wait. You guys are both talking 
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over one another. You need to let him wait and 
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finish his question because If I want to assert an 
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objection. neither one of you gives me a chance. 
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which may be the plan. Form. 
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against you. 
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did Jeffrey say that he 
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wanted that vehicle to use or to bo parked at his house? 
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A. No. 
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parking that vehicle at his home? 
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A. I think the origination of that came when I 
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started using the Hummer, that the Suburban was parked 
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in my driveway and I wanted to get it out of my driveway 
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as an eyesore. So hence, I decided to let people at the 
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A. rm guessing. It was probably two years old 
when I got it. Maybe '99. Maybe '01.'02. 
0. Something you still drive? 
A. Occasionally. Its kind of a beat up car now, 
so it's kind of a knock around. 
0. Best of your knowledge, it stays parked at 
your house? 
A. Recently irs been in Jeffrey's driveway, 
0. Why? 
A. Just for an extra car to use. 
0. For Jeffrey to use? 
A. No. I mean, for anybody that would come to 
the house to help out. Igor I think has driven the car 
before. 
0. How did it come about that you began to park 
the Chevy Suburban, the 1999 car that we're talking 
about, at Jeffrey's house? 
A. When there was more activity here in West Palm 
Beach. We were never usually coming here that often, 
and now with atilt*, going on, with Jeffrey being in 
town longer, we needed more cars and transportation. So 
my car was lust sitting In the driveway at home while I 
was driving the Hummer. So I decided to let them use 
the Hummer at the house. 
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house drive it as a grocery shopping car or something, 
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or just as extra transportation. 
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0. Okay. But when you go to park the car at 
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somebody else's house, you have to let them know. Hey, 
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rm giving you the keys? 
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A. Mm-hmm. 
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O. Who did you give the keys to? 
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A. I don't know ill gave the keys to anybody. 
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Yanush this is an extra car if you guys needed it to run 
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around because it was an eyesore at my driveway. 
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1999? 
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A. Say that again. 
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0. Mercedes SUV, 1999 registered in your name? 
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A. Yes. 
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0. And what car is that? 
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A. There my car 
my wife's car. 
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0. Does that stay al your house? 
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A. Yes. 
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O. And that's the car that's parked at your hot's.. 
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now? 
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A. Yes. 
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0. Are you familiar with a Land Rover, Range 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. Registered in your name? 
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A. Yes. 
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0. And whose car is that? 
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A. That's another extra car for the household to 
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use at Jeffrey's house. 
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A. Last year. 
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A. tt was purchased in my name. 
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By whom? Who purchased the car in your name? 
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they were wired to my account from New 
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O. From whom, though? A mysterious source Just 
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sent funds? We know that didn't happen, so Prn just 
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trying t0 elaborate here. 
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A. Jeffrey had paid for the car. 
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O. Okay. And why did Jeffrey pay fora car and 
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put It In your name? 
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A. I don't know. 
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that resulted in Jeffrey paying for a Land Rover, a 2008 
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2005 registered in your name? 
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A. Yes. 
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A. That car also is a Palm Beach house car to be 
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used at the house. 
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A. It's a car that we park in Jeffrey's driveway 
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for people to use. Anybody that comes to the house can 
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selectee/it to go anywhere. I mean, run errands, go 
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shopping, do whatever they need to do. And that was 
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purchased the same way. It was in my name. 
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exactly what account they came from. 
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0. Again, that's a conversation that has to take 
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place before — that you have to agree to put a car in 
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A. Yes. 
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that results in a Mercedes-Benz 2005 being placed in 
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A. He just said we need a fun car for the house 
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A. I don't recall exactly how the conversation 
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jail or after he was out? 
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probably happened a year ago, maybe loss than a year 
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ago. rd have to look. I don't remember exactly the 
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Florida Science Foundation or possibly on house arrest? 
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A. It was - no, it was definitely before house 
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arrest. It was probably during the time of the Florida 
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Science Foundation, to be accurate. 
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A. About eight or nine months ago. 
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0. Okay. Are you aware of a Mercedes-Benz CLK 
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A. I don't knOW. 
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O. You didn't ask any questions about that? 
A. No. I didn't. 
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A. I forgot about that one, yes. 
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A. That's a Palm Beach car. 
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A. It's the Palm Beach house car, another run 
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around for people to use. 
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0. And again, that's a conversation that has to 
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take place that results In a car being placed --
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registered in your name? 
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A. Yes. 
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0. Okay. Now we're talking about several cars 
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here? 
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A. Yes. 
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0. That are all being placed in your name? 
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A. Yes. 
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0. You never at any time ask any questions to 
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Jeffrey Epstein why are you placing these cars in my 
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A. I did not. 
Q. So your suspicions were never -- your 
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we being placed In your name? 
A. My curiosity was piqued. 
Q. You never asked him the question, you just 
agreed to do it? 
A. That's correct. 
0. That goes for the Jaguar X-Type? 
A. Yes. 
Q. Are you familiar with a motorcycle, Big Dog 
Chopper Motorcycle. 2003? 
A. That is mine. 
0. Yours? 
A. Yes. 
Q. Registered in your name for a good purpose, 
right? 
A. Yos, It is. 
Q. At your house? 
A. Yes. 
0. You use it? 
A. Absolutely. 
Q. Al right. Ford F-250, 2008. registered in 
your name, are you familiar with that? 
A. It's not registered in my name. 
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Who drives that car, Ford F-250? 
That was shipped to St. Thomas. 
For who to use and for what purpose? 
Wel, that car should have been put under LSJ, 
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A. Little St. James. 
Q. And that's a corporation? 
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A. Yes. 
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A. I know It's a corporation. I don't know its 
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affiliation to Jeffrey. 
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comes about Is through a conversation with yourself and 
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Jeffrey Epstein? 
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A. Yes, yes. 
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that this corporation LSJ, LLC, you're not sure if char 
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has any affiliation with Jeffrey Epstein? 
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A. I don't have any facts to lie the two 
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0. Common sense would dictate? 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. Okay. So if that's registered in your name, 
that would be a shock to you? That would be a surprise 
to you? 
A. Yes. it would be. 
0. There should be no documentation from you 
where you would be the registered owner of the Ford 
F-250? 
A. What year? 
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A. I remember buying that car. I just - that 
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shouldn't be in my name. 
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A. I do a lot -- !do all the car purchases for 
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the car-shopper. I'm the car fanatic. 
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These are vehicles that are not being refurbished or 
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anything, they're being driven wound town? 
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A. No. but theyre fun. The new Range Rover is a 
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nice car. 
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O. This Ford F250, that's a car also that's Palm 
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as you would say a Palm Beach car? 
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0. Again, that's not a car that you use. the Ford 
F-250? 
A. No, it's not even here. 
0. And when you say on St. Thomas, is it on 
actual St. Thomas, or Is It on Little St. James? 
A. No, it's on St. Thomas. ft's a work vehicle. 
0. For whom? 
A. For the workers, for the island. 
MR. REINHAFIT: Be careful to answer his 
question. I think his question is. is it on 
St. Thomas or Little SI. James island? Where 
physically is the car, if you know. 
THE WITNESS: I don't know for a tact. 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
0. It's your understanding it's on St. Thomas? 
A. Yes. 
0. And when you say "the workers; what's going 
on on St. Thomas to where there's workers that need an 
F-250? 
A. Just moving sand. I don't know the exact 
detail for it. 
0. What were you told about the need for this car 
to be on St. Thomas? 
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A. They need a work truck. 
O. To do what? 
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A. I don't know what the detail or the - you 
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know, what the job detail was for the truck. They just 
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needed a work truck 
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Q. So Jeffrey Epstein tells you they need a work 
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A. Yes, to go purchase and get the best deaf I 
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O. Whose money was used to purchase the truck. 
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You say you purchased the truck. I want the record to 
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be clear whether yd.:Ye purchasing it with your money? 
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A. No, this was wire-transferred. it was a I 
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to pay for that. Thal should not be in my name, Is what 
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O. I understand that. 
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A. No, rim being — yeah, I didn't. 
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O. Okay. And by *Jeffreys boat; It was 
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purchased with Jeffrey's money? 
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A. 36.000. 
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O. Do you know how much the Land Rover cost? 
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A. 68,000. 
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cost, that's yours. right? The Chevy Suburban is yours 
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as well? 
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A. Yes, I remember how much those cost too. 
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O. IS there another boat, 35•foot Donzl 
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powerboat, 1999? 
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A. That's the one I thought you were talking 
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about originally. 
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Q. That's the same boat? 
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A. That's the same boat. 
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O. Is there any other boat Mars registered in 
Do you know how much that cost? 
I think it was 60.000. 
Do you know how much the Ford F-250 cost? 
Twenty-five, lYn guessing. ballpark. 
Do you know how much the Jaguar X-Type cost? 
11,000. 
Do you know how much the Mercedes-Benz CLK 
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O. 34-foot JVC Powerboat, 2000, owner LSJ, LLC, 
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registered to Larry Visosid. Do you know that? 
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A. Yea 
Q. You knew that that boat was registered in your 
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A. It's registered to LSJ. It's Jeffreys boat 
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that we keep here in West Palm Beach. 
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A. No. 
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home? 
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A. It's used in my home address, yes. 
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St. Thomas for it to live, but Since Jeffreys here, 
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we're keeping it in Florida• and when we ship the boat 
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over, we will change title to the Little St. James 
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address. 
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O. What do you mean 'since Jeffrey's here we're 
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keeping it in Florida'? What does Jeffrey being here 
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have to do with keeping a boat that's registered in your 
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name and to your address --
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A. Well. I have access to use the boat, you know, 
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your name? 
A. No. 
Q. Did you know that in let me ask you this: 
Do you have a 2003 Ferrari F75-M? 
A. No. 
O. Any reason why the car is registered in your 
name and the asking price Is $159,000 being sold in Now 
York? 
A. That car is not registered in my name. 
O. If It's registered — 
A. The ad is in my name. 
O. Why is the ad in your name? 
A. Because I was trying to sell it. 
O. Why were you trying to sell it? 
A. It was Jeffrey's car and we didn't want t: 
anymore. 
O. Why wouki he put his pilot in charge of 
selling his Ferrari? 
A. Because I bought it. 
O. How much did you buy it for? 
A. 179.000. Now, when I say 'I bought le 4 
was his money. I was the one that negotiated it, to be 
dear. It was his car for use in New York. 
Q. Are you aware of the Zorro Trust winning an 
85 mitiondollar Power Bab lottery in 2008? 
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MR. EDWARDS: The Zorro Trust winning an 
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85 million-dollar Power Ball ticket in 2008. 
THE WITNESS: No. 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
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Ghlslalne Air In making political contributions? 
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A. I may have. 
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contributions --
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A. Yes, I have. 
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A. I needed a company name for that event, and I 
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had put Air Ghislaine. 
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A. I didn't think of it at the time. 
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rather than the company that has been paying you? 
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actually your employer, nor have they ever been? 
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answering the phones. 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. How long did she work there? 
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A. A month. maybe. 
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Florida Science Foundation? 
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A. Yes. 
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Q. Do you have a good relationship with your 
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wife? 
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A. I think so 
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that I work for and never really associated myself with 
NES. LLC as my realistic employer. So when I go to a 
convention, an aviation convention, and somebody says 
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who do you work for, I use the name JEGE because that's 
the name of the Boeing company. 
0. But when I sit here and ask you who you work 
for, you give me a different answer. 
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which is where my paycheck comes from, which Is NES, 
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A. I know the name, yes. 
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O. How do you know her? 
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A. I've seen her on the airplane a couple times. 
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romantically or sexually with Jeffrey Epstein at any 
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A. I don't know that. 
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O. Are there any other cars, vehicles, items. 
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ocher things that are registered in your name that are 
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actually Jeffrey Epstein's? 
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A. No. You've actually covered them all and 
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actuay shed light on some that I did not realize, like 
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O. Do you know of any other employees, trends, 
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agents, relatives of Jeffrey Epstein who he places his 
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property in their names, registers them In his names or 
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anybody else? 
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A. Not to my knowledge. I don't know. 
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A. I'm the only one I'm aware of. 
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0. And with respect to minor girls being on the 
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airplane, that being under the age of 18, how many times 
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would you say that you have flown girls into the 
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country, Into the United States where you have given a 
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date of birth to Customs of somebody on the airplane 
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that Is under the age of 18? 
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A. I'd have to look at fright records to verify 
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or give you a correct answer. I don't know any to my 
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knowledge at this point. 
O. What Wight records would you have to look at? 
A. The passenger manifests. 
0. Passenger manifests would have the date of 
birth on it? 
A. No. It would have a name, but I don't have --
0. But at some point in time you remember people, 
minor date of births, coming Into the country and that 
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being turned Over to Customs? 
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transporting on the airplane from the country back 
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into the U.S. that was a minor, to my knowledge. 
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A. I don't know. 
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A. I don't know dates of birth. 
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O. And any people that you knew to be minors on 
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me airplane, were they always accompanied by parents or 
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were there minors on the airplane that you're aware of 
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that were not accompanied by parents? 
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would get on the airplane and get off the airplane. I 
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could tell you there were times people would get on that 
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A. Us as the crew. 
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O. Okay. So if a massage table had ever been 
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used, it would have been you and the crew who would have 
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been responsible for either taking towels or doing 
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something with the massage table? 
A. Absokitety. 
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O. And if I understood your testimony, you never 
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saw a circumstance rebate it appeared to you that the 
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massage table had been used in any manner; is that 
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correct? 
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A. mat is correct. It stayed in the same 
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location since the day it was put on there. 
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Mr. Epstein is the person who (erected you generally 
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unless one of -• someone else who worked on his behalf 
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or pick up luggage, et cetera. My question to you is 
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this: Have you flown in the past for other private 
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individuals Ike Mr. Epstein. i.e., as distinct from a 
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cornraerclar? 
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I (AIM even know were on the airplane. Our focus Is 
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up front. 
O. Was there a massage table on the airplane? 
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A. Which aircraft? 
0. On any of them? 
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have no knowledge of that massage table on the airplane 
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ever being used? 
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were just asked about a massage table on the — any of 
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Mr. Epateiris airplanes and you said there was a massage 
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table on the Boeing? 
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A. Yes. 
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Boeing or just for a period of time? 
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transferring of owners. 
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separate and apart from Mr. Epstein, again, every 
individual is different, but was your relationship 
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realty any different with any of those other 
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to his house and maintain a boat that was in the back of 
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his house above and beyond my call of duty because I had 
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an interest in boats. Ws just something I like to do. 
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prior orients that I had as owners. I knew that I was 
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not afraid to work for a living, and they understood 
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that. 
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that you worked for asked you to do eirnilar things that 
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you've done for Mr. Epstein, such as take care of a boat 
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or purchase a boat a maintain the boat? 
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A. Sum, absolutely. 
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regard to if you bought boats or you bought cars on his 
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behalf. that's very similar to your prior experience 
with working with another private individual? 
A. That Is correct. 
O. In terms of the records, the manner in which 
you flew the plane or — I don't want to say flew the 
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done with other private individuals? 
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Mr. Epstein any different than any prior — previous 
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both of the airplanes when you took over that 
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responsibility a number of years age Is it your 
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obligation to get the passengers there safely -- onboard 
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and safely to the destination and then return? 
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O. Did Mr. Edwards, in approximately four hours, 
little over lour hours of questioning, ever ask you one 
question about. that you can recall? 
A. Not that I recall. 
O. Have you ever heard the name 
Did you 
ever know someone named M.? 
A. Never heard that name. 
O. In approximately four-and-a-half hours of 
questioning by Mr. Edwards, did he ever ask you about 
A. No, he did not. 
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are you familiar with 
an Individual by the name of Jane Doe..)? 
A. I never heard that name. 
O. In approximately four-and-a-half hours of 
questioning by Mr. Edwards, did he ever ask you 
questions about Jane Doll)? 
A. No, he cad net 
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you fly commercial from time to time? 
A. Sure. 
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the people who are in the back of the airplane? 
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we started about ten. It's 
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heard of her or did I ask any questions about her, 
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or did you ask both questions and give the same 
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answer? 
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visited any el them in jail, no. sir. 
Also wealthy individuals? 
Big time. 
And did you know what they did for a living? 
Those I 6:4 yes. 
And did you ever go visit any of those people 
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Epstein? 
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Epstein. 
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Wendy Beath Anderson, APR, CRR. FPH 
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Notary Public State of Florida 
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My Commission No.: DD 906647 
Job 0127542 
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CERTIFICATE OF OATH 
THE STATE OF FLORIDA 
COUNTY OF PALM BEACH 
I, the undersigned authority, certify that 
LARRY VISOSKI personally appeared before me and was duly 
sworn on the 15th day of October. 2009. 
Dated tree 22nd day of October, 2009. 
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A. The longest period of time was five years and 
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MR. CRITTON: Thank you. 
MR. EDWARDS: Well order. 
MR. REINHART: Well read. 
MR. CRITTON: Well take a copy, front page. 
mini with Index. 
(Witness excused.) 
(Deposition was concluded at 3:37 p.m.) 
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Dated this 22nd day of October, 2009. 
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