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girl, 
Q 
And is there also evidence that 
and 
actually spoke on October 1st 
before that message? 
A 
We have cell phone calls between 
Kellen and 
as well as the message which 
was from 
to Jeffrey regarding -- confirming 
='
the appointment for 
but we have a cell 
phone call I believe it was a little bit earlier 
from 
to 
or maybe it was 
to 
, but it is definitely between the two of 
them on that same day. 
Q 
All right. When 
was interviewed 
by the Palm Beach Police Department, did she 
describe all of the sexual activity? 
A 
No, she did not. She did not tell them 
about the vibrator or the -- she didn't tell them 
about the vibrator or the penetration. 
Q 
And, again, you said that when you 
brought up -- did you sort of confront her with 
the idea that more had occurred? 
A 
I did, and she was very embarrassed 
about the vibrator. 
I asked her at one point if 
Mr. Epstein had given her any gifts and she got 
very red in the face and began to tear up and you 
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could see that she was very embarrassed. 
So we took a little bit of a break, but 
then she was able to say that Mr. Epstein had 
provided her as a birthday present a vibrator. So 
not only was there a vibrator back massager used 
on her, but at this time -- and I think that's 
kind of what got 
talking about the sexual 
activity that she was able to tell me that, and 
she was very, very embarrassed, but that Mr. 
Epstein had given her for her eighteenth birthday 
a vibrator. 
Q 
Now you mentioned that that happened on 
her eighteenth birthday? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And was she able to tell you whether Mr. 
Epstein knew it was her eighteenth birthday? 
A 
She stated that Mr. Epstein provided to 
her on her eighteenth birthday the vibrator and 
shortly -- well --
Q 
So before you had said that 
had 
instructed 
to tell everyone that she was 
18; do you remember that? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
But at some point, the people in the 
Epstein household learned that she hadn't turned 
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18 yet and her birthday was coming up? 
A 
Her birthday was coming up. 
Q 
And at some point, was a car provided 
A 
Yes. 
In October of '05, 
was 
having 
asked Mr. Epstein is she could 
borrow one of his cars to go to Orlando and he 
stated that -- at first he said yes, and then he 
said he would get her a rental car. 
So 
contacted 
a few days 
later and said that a car had been rented for 
and that the house manager used the 
company credit card and 
picked up that 
car, and actually when the police interviewed her 
on October 6th, which was five or six days after 
the last massage, they were able to see that that 
Nissan Sentra that had been rented by Mr. Epstein, 
had that in her possession for at least 
through January 1st of 2006 and that car was 
rented by Mr. Epstein for at least that amount of 
time. 
Q 
Did 
describe how the massage 
appointments would be made? 
A 
Yes, she did. 
Q 
And how was that? 
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A 
She stated that 
, that 
Jill" Jeffrey's assistant, would call her and set 
up appointments, and that sometimes she would call 
her on her cell phone from New York, from the 
Islands, and say that they were coming into town, 
was she available. 
She would also call 
while they 
were in town to see if she was available for 
massages, to give massages to Mr. Epstein, and 
stated that 
, who we have identified as 
called her a few times as well to set 
appointments up. 
Q 
And when those appointments were made 
how would 
reach 
A 
By phone. 
Q 
All right. 
And whether she was in town 
or out of town, she would call 
's cell 
phone? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
All right. Now was there any -- during 
the interview with the police department, did the 
police department ask 
about what she 
discussed with Jeffrey Epstein during the 
massages? 
A 
I would have to check the police reports 
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to give specifics on that. 
Q 
All right. 
A 
My answer to your question is yes. 
Q 
Okay. And what did she say were some of 
!the topics of discussion? 
A 
Mr. Epstein asked her questions about 
herself, asked her if she was a soccer player or 
that -- Jeffrey knew that she was a soccer player 
and asked questions about her college, about where 
she was going to school. 
is currently going to Lynn 
!University, and she had advised Mr. Epstein that 
\she would be attending college at Lynn University. 
So that was a -- but that was her future 
/plan? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
So in other words, did Mr. Epstein know 
that she was in high school at the time? 
A 
Yes, he did. And the Palm Beach Police 
asked 
if Jeffrey knew her age and 
told the Palm Beach Police Department, he didn't 
care what my age was. 
Now did 
describe either to you 
or to the police department how she would be paid 
for these massages? 
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A 
She stated she was paid $200 and that 
she received anywhere from two to $300. 
Q 
With every visit? 
A 
With each visit. 
Q 
Okay. Did she say who would provide her 
with that money? 
A 
She said that Jeffrey paid her at the 
end of the massage. 
Q 
All right. You mentioned the gift of 
the vibrator. 
Were there other gifts that were 
given to 
A 
Yes. The time period is unclear, but 
the vibrator was given to her for her eighteenth 
birthday. There were three sets of bra and 
underwear, panties, 
Secret bra and 
underwear sets that were also given to 
as 
gifts from Mr. Epstein. 
Q 
Now I know that we talked earlier about 
the fact that 
is the person who brought 
to Mr. Epstein's house. 
Did 
ever 
bring anyone to Mr. Epstein's house? 
A 
brought a female by the name of 
M. and that was a friend of 
s. 
Q 
And let me show you what has been marked 
as Grand Jury Exhibit 4, and what is Grand Jury 
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Exhibit 4? 
A 
It's a photograph of 
M. with a 
date of birth of 6-1-1986. 
Q 
How old was 
M. when 
took 
her to Mr. Epstein's house? 
A 
took her there in the spring of 
2005 and 
was 18 at that time. 
Q 
Now can you tell us now 
went 
about bringing 
to the house? 
A 
told 
that she could make 
some money giving a massage to Mr. Epstein and 
and 
went to Mr. Epstein's house 
together. 
The first time that 
went there, 
she did not go upstairs and give him a massage. 
IIIIIII 
was working that day. But in talking to 
further, 
stated that she probably 
over the period of time between the spring of '05 
and October of '05, performed around five to ten 
massages for Mr. Epstein. 
The first few of those he did not do 
anything as far as no masturbating, no sexual 
activity. She would just perform a massage. 
Q 
And did that change over time? 
A 
Yes, it did. She stated that she 
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performed two to three massages out of those five 
or ten and in her underwear and bra only, and 
that he would push her each time. 
He would just push her to do more and on 
the third -- I believe she stated the third or 
fourth massage, he told her that she could make 
more money if she removed her clothing, because 
she stayed clothed during the lirst lew massages, 
and she was paid $200 for each of those massages. 
On the third or fourth massage, Mr. 
Epstein said that she could make more money it she 
removed her clothing. So around the fourth or 
fifth time, she did start taking off her clothing 
down to her underwear and bra only. 
Q 
And then what happened when she was at 
that point of being unclothed? 
A 
She would perform the massage. 
He 
attempted to touch her, but she always would say 
no. 
At one point, her bra does get undone by Mr. 
Epstein, but she does keep it up. 
Q 
Now that was the extent of his touching 
Lauren. 
At some point, did he begin masturbating 
in front of her? 
A 
Yes, he did. 
Not in the very beginning, 
but throughout this he did. 
Now I should tell you 
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that 
stated to us that because she was kind 
of reserved or held back as he made advances 
towards her, she was able to see Mr. Epstein's 
penis and that he was masturbating, but that he 
never finished, that he never ejaculated. She did 
not reel that Mr. Epstein liked her very much. 
Q 
But just to sort of compare what 
said with what 
said, they both said that 
at the beginning they remained clothed? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And that Mr. Epstein progressively 
pushed and pushed and pushed for more sexual 
activity? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Now what was the period of time that 
went to Mr. Epstein's home? 
A 
March of 
I'm sorry, spring of '05 is 
when 
said that she went there and around, 
you know, the investigation is heating up with 
Palm Beach, so we know that in September of '05, 
there was a trash pull done, and in that trash 
pull there was a message and that was found and it 
stated -- it had 
phone number on it and 
it stated, for a good time call 
and 
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Q 
And whose stationery was that? 
A 
It was on Jeffrey Epstein's stationery. 
Q 
And had Jeffrey Epstein been in a Palm 
Beach resident close to those dates? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Now is there evidence of telephone calls 
between 
and 
Kellen? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And how many phone calls have you been 
able to identify? 
A 
At this time, there have been 14 phone 
Q 
All right. 
And just to compare that to 
the number of phone calls with 
A 
With = 
there was over 150 phone 
calls between 
and 
Q 
And that is sort of consistent with the 
number of massages that 
did versus the 
number of massages that 
did? 
A 
It is consistent with especially the 
activity that 
was providing Mr. Epstein 
compared to the activity that 
would 
provide. 
(Thereupon, knocking is heard at the 
Grand Jury door.) 
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MS. 
Let me just step out for 
one moment. 
(Ms. Villafana exits the Grand Jury 
Room.) 
(Ms. 
enters the Grand Jury 
Room.) 
MS. 
Ladies and gentlemen, I 
am going to have to take a break now and we 
will be back either next week or the 
lollowing week. 
Thank you very much. You 
are done for the day. 
(Witness was excused.) 
CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 
I, Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court 
Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the 
transcript is a true and correct transcription of 
my stenotype notes of the testimony of 
SPECIAL AGENT E. NESBITT 
taken before 
the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. 
PAULA 
ANG LOCCI, CSR #4869 
Certified Court Reporter 
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 
RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 
TESTIMONY 
OF 
SPECIAL AGENT E. 
COPY 
Federal Grand Jury 07-103 
Federal Building 
U.S. Courthouse 
West Palm Beach, Florida 
Tuesday, April 24, 2007 
APPEARANCES: 
Assistant United States Attorney 
ore person 
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The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT 
as taken before the 
Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 
Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach 
County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, April 24, 
2007. 
Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court 
Reperter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 
Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 
Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 
33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn 
testimony. 
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(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) 
THE /OREPERSON: You do solemnly swear 
that the testimony you give will be the 
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 
truth, so help you God? 
THE WITNESS: 
I do. 
THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be 
seated. 
EXAMINATION 
BY MS. 
Q 
Special Agent 
1, would you 
just remind the grand jurors who you are and who 
you work for? 
A 
My name is 
1 and I am 
a special agent with the FBI and I work here in 
Palm Beach. 
Q 
Special Agent 
1, can you tell 
the grand jurors who will be appearing before them 
this afternoon? 
A 
One of our victims, Haley R., who was a 
minor at the time that she met Mr. Epstein. 
Q 
And have you previously testified about 
Yes, I have. 
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Q 
Did you attempt to interview her? She's 
going to be coming in, and she is not a minor 
anymore, so what is her full name? 
A 
Her name is 
and I did 
attempt to interview 
, and 
was 
interviewed by Palm Beach Police Department and 
because of the statements she provided to the 
police department, she felt as if she needed a 
lawyer. 
So when I attempted to interview her, we 
ended up going through her lawyer. 
Q 
And just so the grand jury has a little 
bit of background, the interview with the Palm 
Beach Police Department was quite some time ago? 
A 
Yes, it was, in the fall of '05. 
Q 
And when 
started that 
conversation with the police, she was very 
forthcoming? 
A 
Yes, she was. 
Q 
Fully cooperative? 
A 
Yes. 
• 
And what happened in the middle of that 
interview with the police? 
A 
The police just let 
know that she 
could be charged because 
brought some of the 
girls to Mr. Epstein and the police -- she was 
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very cooperative, but the police at that point had 
to let 
know that what she had done that she 
could be facing charges. 
Q 
And that was after they had told her 
earlier that she didn't need an attorney present, 
correct? 
A 
Exactly. 
Q 
Okay. So this happens to her with the 
Palm Beach Police Department and did the Palm 
Beach Police actually present or propose charging 
Ms. 
A 
They did get a probable cause affidavit 
against Haley. 
And is that why Ms. 
and her 
attorney were concerned about her testimony here? 
A 
Yes. 
Now was a subpoena issued for Ms. 
on behall of this grand jury? 
A 
Yes, it was. 
• 
And before Ms. 
would comply with 
that, did she -- did her attorney request some 
sort of order? 
A 
Yes. 
• 
And what did he ask for? 
A 
He asked for immunity for Haley. 
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Q 
And let me show you the order, that is a 
sealed order in these grand jury proceedings. 
Now 
the immunity that has been provided for Ms. 
keeps her statements that are made here from being 
used against her? 
A 
Yes, it does. 
Q 
It doesn't -- if she commits perjury and 
she lies to the grand jury, can she still be 
charged? 
A 
Yes, she can. 
Q 
Okay. Could you read that? 
I know it 
is only two pages. 
A 
Sealed order, on application of the 
United States Attorneys for the Southern District 
of Florida and it appearing to the satisfaction of 
the court that 
has been called to 
testify and to provide other information before 
the United States District Court, the Southern 
District of Florida, including a grand jury 
impaneled therein. 
And number two, that in a judgment of 
the said United States Attorneys, 
has 
refused to testify and provide other information 
on the basis of her privilege against self 
incrimination. 
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And that number three, in the judgment 
of the United States Attorneys, the testimony and 
other information from Haley 
made necessary 
to the public interest. 
And number four, that the aforesaid 
application has been made with the approval of the 
Assistant Attorney General in charge of the 
criminal division of the Department of Justice or 
a duly designated acting Assistant Attorney 
General pursuant to the authority vested in him by 
Title 18, United States Code, Section 6003, and 
Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 
0.175 and 0.132, small e. 
Now, therefore, it is ordered pursuant 
to Title 18, United States Code, Section 6002, 
that 
give testimony and provide other 
information which she refuses to give or to 
provide on the basis of her privilege against self 
incrimination as to all matters about which she 
may be interrogated before said United States 
District Court including a grand jury impaneled 
therein as well as any subsequent proceeding or 
trial. 
However, no testimony or other 
information compelled under this order or any 
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information directly or indirectly derived from 
such testimony or other information may be used 
against 
in any criminal case except a 
prosecution for perjury giving a false statement 
or otherwise tailing to comply with this order. 
It is further ordered that this order 
shall be sealed in accordance with said Federal 
Regulations Criminal. 
BY MS. 
Q 
Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure. 
A 
Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure, it's 
abbreviated, 6, little e, 6, except that a copy of 
this order shall be provided to counsel for the 
United States who may disclose the existence of 
the order to members of the grand jury, to the 
witness, to the counsel for the witness, and to 
law enforcement officers engaged in the 
investigation pending before the grand jury. 
Those persons may review the order, but 
may not retain a copy of the order nor may it 
disclose the existence of the order to any others. 
Done and ordered the 16th day of April 2007, at 
West Palm Beach, Florida. The United States 
District Judge Donald M. Middlebrook, Marie 
Villafana, AUSA. 
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Q 
All right. So has a copy or has this 
document been shown to counsel for Ms. 
A 
Yes, it has. 
Q 
And to Ms. 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And will Ms. 
be here this 
afternoon? 
A 
Yes, she will. 
Q 
Have you had a chance to sit with her? 
A 
Yes, we have. 
Q 
And she has been very forthcoming? 
A 
She's very cooperative. 
Q 
Okay. 
MS. 
I don't have any further 
questions for the witness. Do you have any 
questions? All right. Seeing no questions, 
you are excused and I think that right now 
you are set to come back at 1 : 15. 
How does 
1 :30 sound? Is that all right? 
THE FOREPERSON: Fine. 
(Witness was excused.) 
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