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FBI VOL00009
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1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR COPY TESTIMONY OF SPECIAL AGENT E. Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, May 22, 2007 APPEARANCES: Assistant United States Attorney oreperson Exhibit 29 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224077
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2 ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, May 22, 2007. Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224078
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3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. EXAMINATION BY MS. Q Good afternoon, Special Agent. A Good afternoon. Q Could you remind the grand jury of your name and with whom you are employed? A It's I'm a special agent with the FBI here in West Palm Beach and I work violent crimes. Q Are you the case agent on Operation Leap A Yes, I am. Q Okay. Before we get back to our review of the draft proposed indictment, I know that a question was raised regarding whether the grand jury transcripts are being made available to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224079
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4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 counsel for the defense, are they? A No. Q And is Mr. Epstein considered a high flight risk by the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's Office? A Yes, he is. Q So is the status of the investigation in terms of when an indictment might be returned considered highly confidential? A Yes. Q And are there any personal relationships between any members of the U.S. Attorney's Office and counsel for Mr. Epstein? A Yes. Q And is that one of the reasons why we have decided to use, In Re: Abbott, when referring to this case? A Yes. Q Okay. Now we had left off just prior to the beginning of the discussion of Jane Doe Number Five. Could you tell the grand jury a little bit about Jane Doe Number Five? A Jane Doe Number Five is date of birth is We have phone activity that began with when she was 17 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224080
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5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 years old beginning in November of 2004, going through to almost April, I guess, to the end of March 2005. We have contact, telephone contact between and with approximately 70 phone calls in that time period as well as approximately seven phone calls with regarding the setting up of appointments to provide massages to Mr. Epstein. Q Now did explain how she was first introduced to Mr. Epstein? A Yes, she did. . was the one that approached also attends High School as well as our other first four girls on the board, the Jane Does up there. told her that she would need to wear something sexy, that she would be providing Mr. Epstein with a massage and that she would receive $200, and if she was asked she should tell Mr. Epstein that she was 18. On the first massage that went to Mr. Epstein's house, she removed her shirt at his request and she performed the massage. She was paid $300 for that massage. OFFICIAL IREPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224081
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6 f 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 During that massage, she told Mr. Epstein that she was 18 years of age. He asked her age. They also discussed many things that was interested in. They talked about his ranch. They talked about horses. They actually also talked about cars. At one point later on, Mr. Epstein let's her drive a brand new Lexus, test drive a brand new Lexus. So those were some of her interests and Mr. Epstein talked to her about that. told us that the massages became more sexual in nature and she stated that she did more than ten massages, but that she couldn't quite put a number on how many massages she provided to Mr. Epstein, but it was definitely more than ten. She was not when she was interviewed by the Palm Beach Police Department, she did tell them that it was more around five or six massages. She stated that she minimized to the detectives when they came to interview her. They came to her house and her dad was due home any time and what was foremost on her mind was my dad is going to be here any minute. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224082
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7 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 She cooperated. She told them what had happened, but she minimized it more in an effort that she just wanted them to leave before her parents got home. At this point, her parents were not aware of what took place. As the massages became more sexual in nature, she describes that the first sexual massage he always instructed her on what to do, and on the first massage he had asked her to remove her clothing. She was down to her underwear at this point. He asked her He at that point reached through her legs and masturbated. On another occasion, she was completely nude and she did several of the massages in the nude for Mr. Epstein. In this particular massage, she stated that Mr. Epstein She pulled away and he said that he wanted to touch her and that he also wanted to OFFICIAL rFPoRTTNG SFRV CE, LLC EFTA00224083
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8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 taste her. He stopped at that time, but then before the massage was over, he digitally penetrated her again. He had used a back massager on her on at least two occasions. She did not like that and she told him that and he responded something to the effect: What are you scared to have pleasure? And she told him she didn't like it. On the second to the last massage that gave Mr. Epstein, she was giving him a massage and he took her into the bedroom and asked her to get fully unclothed. He actually took a phone call and told her that she should get undressed and lay on the bed completely naked. He just wanted to look at her. He took his phone call. After the phone call was over, he ended up vaginally penetrating Felicia as well as performing oral sex on a. She said that she felt very dirty after that massage or after that time and she had decided that the next massage would be her last massage, that she did not want to go back. During the last massage she gave, she kept looking at the clock. Mr. Epstein commented OFFICIAL RF.PCRTTNO. SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224084
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9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and noticed that she was looking at the clock and she made reference to that her boyfriend was waiting and Mr. Epstein said that, you know, she was ruining his massage and that if she didn't want to be here she should leave. She told him at this time this would be her last massage. She was paid anywhere from $300 to $600 during the time that she worked for Mr. Epstein. It was who took her upstairs that first time or took her upstairs and set up the massage table. She was given some gifts by Mr. Epstein as well. She received bra and pantie sets from him, Victoria Secret bra and pantie sets. She also received a book of poetry from Mr. Epstein. She was Western Unioned a wire of $200 Milk as a Christmas bonus to from Mr. Epstein. Q How did I=. get to and from Mr. Epstein's home? A She had a vehicle that she would drive if she didn't ride with one of the other girls. If she was grounded and could not get to Mr. Epstein's house, he would send a car for her. There was a local taxi service and she stated that on several occasions it was a Lincoln OFFICIAL REPORTTNn sppvicE, LLC EFTA00224085
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10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Town Car that was sent and there was an individual by the name of Dennis that she got to know pretty well on the drives to and from Mr. Epstein's house, but that even when she didn't have transportation on those particular times, that a car was sent for her to bring her to Mr. Epstein's house. Q Is there anything else that you wanted to tell the grand jury about A That's it. Q All right. If I could direct you to the proposed draft indictment, draft proposed indictment, and ask you to look at the Overt Acts that involve Jane Doe Number Five and Specifically Overt Acts 53, 58, 61 , 65, 69, 74, 81 , 91 , 98, 107, and 1 1 1 Can you explain to the grand jury what the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? A We have reviewed phone records that indicates that there was telephonic contact between and on those dates as IME well as statements that arranging the appointments. Q All right. And if I can refer you to Overt Act Number 72, which states on or about was OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224086
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1 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 December 23, 2004, Defendant Epstein caused a Western Union wire transfer order to be sent to Jane Doe Number Five. What evidence do you have to support that? A We have IME statements and we also have the Western Union receipt showing that she received that amount of money. Q And those were in response to a subpoena issued on behalf of this grand jury? A Yes. Q If I could direct you to Overt Act What is the Number 82 involving basis for that Overt Act? A Again, a review of the phone records from and telephone indicate that they had contact at that time. Q And Overt Act Number 88 states that on or about January 26, 2005, Defendant reviewed a telephone message from Jane Doe Number Five. What is the basis for that allegation? A We have reviewed the message pads that were recovered during the execution of the state search warrant and recovered a message that left for confirming an appointment OFFICIAL RRPORTTNC: RFRVTCE, LLC EFTA00224087
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12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 that I have a copy of that if you want me to read that to you. Q Sure. A It's a message for dated January 26th, 2005, at 1 :30 p.m. It's from a and it says, in parentheses, you know the number, and it says she is confirming 5:30 p.m. Q All right. And then with respect to Overt Acts Numbers 108 and 1 15 related to 10 in what is the evidence supporting those Overt 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Acts? A Again, a review of the phone records of and MIS We show that there was telephonic contact on those dates. Q And then if I could refer you to substantive offense Count Number Nine, which is the enticement charge. Can you just remind the grand jury of the evidence supporting that allegation? A On or about those dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone between and Those telephones were used to set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein. As we OFFICIAL nn PTTmo eFPVTCE, LLC EFTA00224088
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13 1 discussed earlier during the massage the sexual 2 activity that took place, the straddling of him by 3 where he began to masturbate between 4 his -- between her legs, excuse me, while she 5 6 7 He digitally penetrated her, as we 8 talked about. 9 and he had sexual 10 intercourse with as well as performed oral 1 1 sex on 12 He paid anywhere from $300 to illillil 13 $600. He provided her with gifts, a poetry book, 14 a Secret underwear. It was 15 who had set up the room with the massage table and 16 set out the oils. 17 And then, of course, we did discuss the 18 private car that was sent to her when she wasn't 19 available to drive herself. He did pay a -- I 20 didn't mention this earlier -- he paid a truck 21 payment for her when she was short on money. So 22 that was another thing that Mr. Epstein provided 23 to and she was 17 during all of this 24 activity. 25 Q All right. And if I could refer you to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224089
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14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Count Number 53, which is the sex trafficking offense. Is the information that you just summarized the same information that supports that count? A Yes. The only thing I wanted to tell you regarding her age, she told Mr. Epstein that she was 18 on the first visit. A couple of visits later they discussed her birthday. They were talking about her birthday and her plans for her birthday and Mr. Epstein asked her -- said something to the effect like: You are going to be 18? And she said yes. And he said: So you are not 18? She laughed and said no and they kind of laughed and they continued on with the massage. So Mr. Epstein was aware through that conversation that had not yet turned 18. Q All right. Are there any questions regarding before we continue? All right. Let's turn now to Jane Doe Number Six. THE WITNESS: Did we do the count, the traveling count? No, we are not going to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224090
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15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 do those today. THE WITNESS: Okay. Q And if you could tell us Jane Doe Number Six's first name and her date of birth? A Jane Doe Number Six is She also attended High School and her date of birth is Q How did Jane Doe Number Six come to be introduced to Mr. Epstein? A . also contacted -- or told about providing massages to Mr. Epstein. She told -- which I'm going to refer to her ase That's what she goes by, but her name is That he wanted cute girls to give him massages and that he would pay $200. We had have contact starting with in July of 2000 between and that phone contact continues until September 2005. Between this time period, we have over 200 -- approximately 225 calls between and During first massage, brought over there and was paid $200 by Mr. Epstein. She left. performed the first OFFICIAL PPDriATTMr CIPLIU CE, LLC EFTA00224091
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16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 massage topless. He asked her to take her skirt and her shirt off. She said no at first and later in the massage, the way puts it, is that he talked her into it and she removed her shirt, which she was not wearing a bra at the time. Mr. Epstein fondled her breasts. He asked her to remove her panties and she said no. He masturbated and as soon as he ejaculated, the massage was over. She was paid $200 for that. She, at that point, she did start working for Epstein on a regular basis. She indicated that she had been there hundreds of times over this time period. She told us -- and I'm going to read a quote to you that she said to me or said to not to me but to law enforcement -- she said -- and this is referring to after the first time that she went there. She said I first told him that I had a problem with it, what happened the first time, but $200 for 45 minutes that was a lot for a 16-year -old girl making six bucks an hour. Now that was a statement she made to law enforcement. Going through her phone records and OFFICIAL RFPORTTNn gFRVICE, LLC EFTA00224092
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17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 during her interview with law enforcement, she goes back and forth on whether she is 16 or 17. It's now over a year since she started working -- a year and a half since she started working for Mr. Epstein and going back and trying to retrace her age, she did say that, but we believe at that time she was 17 due to the phone contact. So we are not sure when that first massage started, but the phone contact with began in July of '04 when she would have been 17. Q And just to be clear, during that interview with law enforcement, did Alex have access to her phone records? A No. Q And the interviewing officer also didn't have access to those records, correct? A No. Q So she was just saying she couldn't remember if she was 16 or 17 at the time? A Right. As I said, she became kind of a regular. He increased her pay to $300 to $400 as long as he could touch her. She stated that the massages OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224093
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18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 would progress over time and at first she would not take off her panties, then she did. She performed the massages naked. He would rub vagina. He also digitally penetrated He performed oral sex one He would masturbate while rubbing himself on breasts. Later in the times that was performing the massages, he requested become sexually involved with that she Mr. Epstein asked to perform oral sex on and refused and Mr. Epstein told her that if she was to perform oral sex on for five minutes, he would give her another $200. So she did. and engaged in sexual activity less than five times. Mr. Epstein would also partake in that sexual activity as well. On one occasion with all three of them, as we had mentioned earlier in a grand jury session, the massage was over and _was standing up near the massage table and Mr. Epstein penetrated vagina. I think she described it as that he went OFFICIAL RRIDMRTTNG SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224094
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19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 inside her four or five times with his penis and And when he first digitally penetrated her on the first time, she, you know, asked him why he was doing that. He said: Oh, I thought we had done this before. And later he continues to digitally penetrate her. On this occasion, she said: What are you doing? Q So at the time that that occurred, she still had a rule with him, but the rule was that he would not penetrate her vagina with his penis? A Right. And Mr. Epstein gave we'll talk about several gifts. One of the gifts that Mr. Epstein gave was a 2005 Dodge Neon. It only had seven miles on it. believes that that car was bought for her. We have reason to believe it was most likely rented and we are determining that right now, but he gave her this. It only had seven miles and she gave OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224095
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20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that back to him before she got out of high school. And she said, and this is her quote: It got too sticky for me. He wanted more than I was willing to give. She stated that Epstein requested her to have sex with him multiple times and also wanted him to -- wanted her to perform oral sex on him and she refused to do that, and Mr. Epstein knew that that was not going to happen. And, again, that's one of the reasons why she ended up giving back the car because it just was getting a little bit, as she referred to, sticky for her. After that occasion, where he did penetrate her vagina, he paid her $1 ,000 after that. Some of the gifts that she received other than the car, she describes that as La Secret underwear and a bra and pantie set she received. She received Christmas bonuses, movie tickets, VIP show tickets. She went to the David Copperfield show. She met with him. She went to the after party. She received a Louis Vuitton bag. was in a play at her high school OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224096
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