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Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 304-1 Entered on FLSD Docket 01/30/2015 Page 3 of 3 
The entire phone conversation only last several minutes. 
9. 1 did not hear from Ms. 
again. In mid-March 2007, I reported for my new 
assignment at FBI Headquarters in Washington, D.C. 
10. I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct. 
Executed on January 26. 2015. 
Section Chief 
Federal Bureau of Investigation 
Washington. U.C. 
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Case No. 08-80736-CIV.N1ARRA 
EFTA00185246
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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM 
Document 15-2 
, Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 
Page 2 of 35 
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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM 
Document 15-2 
.Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 
Page 3 of 35 
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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM 
Document 15-2 
Entered on F LSD Docket 06/30/2008 
Page 4 of 35 
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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM 
Document 15-2 
Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 
Page 5 of 35 
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Document 15-2 
Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 
Page 6 of 35 
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119-KAM 
Document 15-2 
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Page 7 of 35
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Page 8 of 35 
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Document 15-2 
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Page 9 of 35 
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