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. Present for the interview was AUSA 
AUSA 
AUSS, 
Detective 
and Special Agent
. 
was born in Stockholm, Sweden and grew up with five siblings, a half-sibling 
IM has two older 
half-brothers who live in Sweden. In approximately 1984, 
his parents, and siblings moved to Los 
Angeles for a year, then moved back to Sweden for 
first grade year. In approximately 1988, IM 
attended second grade at the PALM BEACH SCHOOL OF THE ARTS in Palm Beach, Florida. In 
senior 
year, the school's name changed to DREYFUSS SCHOOL OF THE ARTS. 
graduated high school in 
1998. 
and 
also attended. 
lived in Florida for approximately eleven years before 
moving to New York for college, where he attended three semesters at the Manhattan School of Music. 
He attended college from approximately October 1998 to 2000. In approximately 2000, 
moved to 
Los Angeles and has lived there for approximately 20 years, where he has pursued acting, music, voice 
over acting, photography, real estate, and notary. 
and 
all attended INTERLOCHEN in approximately 19994, 1995, and 1996. In 
1997, 
and 
attended TANGLEWOOD BOSTON INSTITUTE, but 
was not sure if 
also attended. Their father died in 1993, and in the summer of 1994 at INTERLOCHEN was when 
first started talking about a man (JEFFREY EPSTEIN) for who she had a sense of admiration. EPSTEIN 
focused on their father, saying he knew their dad and admired him. EPSTEIN approached 
at the 
picnic tables. 
told 
the day of or shortly after she met EPSTEIN. 
would have been 14 
years old when she met EPSTEIN. 
did not recall if 
referred to him as "JEFFREY" or "JEFFREY 
EPSTEIN". It became clear that EPSTEIN lived in Palm Beach, which was a "cool coincidence". • 
did 
not recall the first time he met EPSTEIN. The first memory 
had of meeting EPSTEIN was in Okie 
Square/Okie Boulevard at a movie theater. 
met EPSTEIN and 
and GHISLAINE MAXWELL were 
also present. 
assumed that MAXWELL was EPSTEIN's girlfriend/partner. 
did not remember if 
that was the first time, he met EPSTEIN, but did recall that it was the first time that he met MAXWELL. 
When 
met MAXWELL, he was approximately 16 years old, while 
was 15 years old. 
did 
not recall meeting EPSTEIN while at INTERLOCHEN, so assumed it was in Palm Beach the first time he 
met him. 
assumed he just started hanging out with 
or she was going to his house. 
told MI that MAXWELL had told her, "Oh I would teach your brother a thing or two". 
EPSTEIN was a "godfather figure" and wanted to help 
EPSTEIN wanted to do a lot of nice things 
because he admired their father. 
heard this from 
and their mother. 
reported that it 
never felt weird, but now looking back it does. 
recalled that 
was going to EPSTEIN's home 
days/weeks/months after first meeting EPSTEIN. 
felt that it was pretty soon after camp. 
felt 
that 
had gone over in the day time. 
did not think 
had stayed the night at EPSTEIN's 
home, but she could have. EPSTEIN sent a driver, who 
described as a very nice Latin man. MI only 
remembered EPSTEIN's driver because he was very friendly. They talked about Latin music together. 
could not recall his name. 
When 
and his family had moved to another house in approximately 1995/1996, he recalled 
answering the phone and EPSTEIN was on the other line. 
mother always told them to be polite. 
EPSTEIN was always curt and to the point saying something like, "Can I speak to 
please?". 
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spoke to EPSTIEN on the phone a handful of times and it was always the same. 
did not remember if 
he talked with MAXWELL on the phone. 
When 
met EPSTEIN in person, EPSTEIN seemed weird; EPSTEIN was in sweatpants and seemed like a 
homeless person. 
had told 
at some point that she remembered EPSTEIN having dinner at 
their home; 
did not remember this but thought it would have made sense because their mother had 
people over all the time. 
went to New York City in approximately 1997/1998 for her senior year of high school. Before she 
left for her senior year, 
told MI about EPSTEIN's house. 
would have been a junior when 
she told him this. 
did not who made travel arrangements for 
; he did not know if they were 
commercial or private. IM recalled that 
was in a pageant in approximately 1996/1997 in which 
EPSTEIN helped her. 
has spoken to his sisters over the years about it. 
recalled one of his sisters 
said she went with 
to buy a dress for the pageant. EPSTEIN's New York City house had seven 
stories; 
talked about the house. MI felt that MAXWELL always traveled with 
and 
EPSTEIN. 
mentioned MAXWELL a lot. 
would go to events and places with EPSTEIN and 
MAXWELL; 
talked with 
about it. 
remembered that 
had told him that she met 
DONALD TRUMP at MAR-A-LAGO in approximately 1995/1996. 
told IM about this meeting at 
the time it happened. 
felt that he met EPSTEIN and MAXWELL a couple times. 
remembered 
approximately 10 years ago seeing EPSTEIN's face in the media. 
recognized him so he believed that 
he had met EPSTEIN more than once. 
In approximately 1997/1998, 
mother told him to write music for EPSTEIN's birthday. 
spent six 
hours writing music, titled "Fanfare for Jeffrey". 
EPSTEIN purchased 
and his family a computer that was delivered to their home by his driver. 
thought this happened shortly after INTERLOCHEN. 
thought it was used before EPSTEIN gave it to 
them. This is the only thing IM remembered receiving from EPSTEIN. 
seemed to think that there 
was no doubt that 
received gifts from EPSTEIN; MI thought this made sense that EPSTEIN would 
do this. MI had no specific memory of 
EPSTIEN's New Mexico ranch. 
receiving a gift. 
told 
that she had been to 
has had conversations with 
over the years where 
told him that EPSTEIN gave 
large amounts of cash. 
When 
was auditioning for colleges in New York City, he stayed in an apartment in Manhattan owned 
by EPSTEIN for a couple of days. 
did not know how he was able to stay at EPSTEIN's apartment. 
There was a friendly door man, who 
thought may have given him a key; 
thought he told the 
doorman may have told him that he was friends with EPSTEIN. While in the apartment, a girl walked in 
and introduced herself as 
did not know 
was staying there. 
was 19 years 
old when he met 
who was 23 years old. When 
walked in, she told him that she worked 
for EPSTEIN. 
MI had not seen 
in over a decade when she reached out. I. 
saw her in London in November 
2019. 
told 
that they needed to talk about EPSTEIN. 
told 
that she was surprised 
it took him so long to ask about him. 
asked 
if she knew, and 
told him no. 
told 
that this situation has ruined her life and that
had written a book with 
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in it. 
believed 
when she said that she did not know the extent of what EPSTEIN was 
doing. 
was paid to work for EPSTEIN; she was basically a slave. 
met BILL CLINTON with 
MAXWELL present. CLINTON asked 
, "What do you do?". MAXWELL told CLINTON that —
was her slave. 
told 
that she knew nothing about what has been reported about EPSTEIN. 
had wanted to talk to 
because he knew she had worked for EPSTEIN and figured that 
had to have known something. Throughout 
friendship over the years with 
they 
never talked about EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. 
told 
that she was MAXWELL's assistant and 
described herself as MAXWELL's slave. 
did not exchange emails with ESPTEIN, nor has he been to any of EPSTEIN's other properties. 
told 
recently that she had been to EPSTEIN's Palm Beach house. 
felt that his mother 
had been to EPSTEIN's Palm Beach house but was not sure. 
went to JUILLIARD. 
When MI saw the news reports, he thought that there was no way something had not happened to 
told him that she had taken 
out for lunch and told 
that she knew 
something had happened to her, telling her that she knew she was raped. At first, 
denied it to 
then broke down. 
Approximately 10 years ago when the investigation of EPSTEIN first came in the news, 
mentioned 
subtly what happened to her. 
never overtly told • 
and II 
never asked. There was a lot that 
was implied. 
thought that he had asked her if she was ok, and 
replied, "How do you think I 
feel; I was raped by a pedophile for years". 
has opened up more in recent years. 
When 
and his mother lived in Sherman Oaks in California, the DAILY MAIL showed up at their home. 
heard the conversation between the reporter and his mother; his mother was trying to protect 
, saying that nothing happened with 
mother was also trying to protect herself. 
In the early 2000's, when 
lived with 
in Sherman Oaks, a massage therapist came to give him 
a massage. This masseuse worked for EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN was still very much in 
life at this time. 
did not remember if he had talked with 
in person or over the phone when it all came out. 
did text 
when EPSTEIN died, telling her that now EPSTEIN was out of her life. 
then 
realized that was not true, that things were just beginning. 
is very resentful towards their mother. 
did not know how their mother could not have 
known because she came home with so much cash. Their mother said that she had asked 
and 
always said nothing happened. 
When 
and his family lived in New York City at 
told him that EPSTEIN co-signed 
for their lease. Their mother said that this was not true; her boyfriend did. When the sublet the 
apartment, the person did not pay the rent and EPSTIEN contacted 
and told her that she needed 
to take care of it. 
said that EPSTEIN paid for INTERLOCHEN. Their mother said her boyfriend paid. 
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Early on, 
had respect for EPSTEIN; she loved how smart he was. EPSTEIN said things like, "An 
ozone repairs itself before a man could ruin". 
did not know what the turning point was for 
would say that it was the lunch she had with 
that was her turning point. 
The news outlets were blackmailing 
saying that she needed to give an interview or they would 
write whatever they wanted. 
thought that she may have paid an attorney to make the media go 
away. 
expressed that she did not want this to ruin her life. 
told 
that he would support her in 
whatever she decided. This conversation happened approximately six months prior to this interview. 
The second or third year at INTERLOCHEN, 
and his brother, friends, and mom stayed at EPSTEIN's 
cabin at INTERLOCHEN. EPSTEIN was not there when they stayed. EPSTEIN communicated to 
that they could stay there. 
IM recalled seeing a meme on Youtube that had 
photo on it but saying that a woman named 
was raped. 
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