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OFFICIAL RECORD 
DateofeMry 
 
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, date of birth 
was interviewed at 
Present for this interview was Detective 
, Special Agent-, 
AUSA 
and AUSA 
After being advised of the identities of the above listed 
individuals and the nature of the interview, 
provided the following 
information: 
met GHISLAINE MAXWELL when she was about 17 years old in 
She recalled meeting MAXWELL in the lobby of a hotel. 
remembered 
being at a friend's 20th birthday party. 
is willing to talk about the case and he was friends with 
MAXWELL. 
would stay at one of JEFFREY EPSTEIN's apartments. 
EPSTEIN would tell her not to have men in the apartment. MAXWELL tried to 
get 
a boyfriend and introduced her to 
was not sure 
how old she was when she met 
but thinks she may have been 18. 
MAXWELL told 
about EPSTEIN. MAXWELL told 
that he helps 
people, and "he is really going to like you". A few months later, MAXWELL 
called 
and told her that EPSTEIN was in town, and to come meet him. 
went to MAXWELL's home in 
. EPSTEIN was on the phone at this 
house and somewhat ignored 
MAXWELL "talked up" 
to 
EPSTEIN. MAXWELL told 
to show EPSTEIN how strong she was with a 
hand massage. 
recalled that her first massage of EPSTEIN turned 
sexual. EPSTEIN had an erection and he placed her hand on his penis. 
EPSTEIN said to her, "It's natural...you're not scared are you?". MAXWELL 
was outside the room when this occurred. Afterwards, MAXWELL asked her how 
it went. MAXWELL asked, "Did you have fun? Did you and did he like it?". 
had a sense that MAXWELL knew what went on. 
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Everything was sexualized with MAXWELL. MAXWELL would refer to EPSTEIN's 
penis as his "willie". After the first incident, 
recalled MAXWELL 
saying, "Anyone just give him a blow job, I'm just so exhausted". MAXWELL 
would giggle and joke about it and say that "us girls have to stick 
together". 
MAXWELL sent a handbag as a gift to 
for her 18th birthday. The 
note for this gift said, "All of our love, Jeffrey and Ghislaine". MAXWELL 
introduced 
tc 
MAXWELL told 
that she met 
when she was 17 years old. 
recalled MAXWELL saying this to 
as a selling point to date 
met 
when she 
was approximately 20 years old. 
traveled to meet with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL several times. They 
would pay for her trips. 
was not sure if this was prior to her 18th 
birthday. 
recalled that two of the sexual encounters she had with 
EPSTEIN were prior to her turning 18. 
In West Palm Beach, she recalled an occasion in which she visited with 
EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. This was after she turned 18. On either the first or 
second day, 
went into her room inside of his house and found a 
school girl outfit on her bed. MAXWELL had put it there and 
acted 
as if she didn't know it was there. MAXWELL told 
that it would be 
fun for her to wear the outfit and bring EPSTEIN his tea. MAXWELL stated, 
"naughty little school girl", and referred to the movie "Saint Trinians" and 
said to have some fun. 
put it on reluctantly and brought him his 
tea. 
felt that she needed to put it on or they would have made her 
leave. At the time, EPSTEIN's trainer was there and 
felt self-
conscious. EPSTEIN dismissed the trainer. 
put the tea down and they 
went into a room with a massage bed. EPSTEIN reached under her skirt and 
started touching 
After this incident, MAXWELL said to 
, "I 
heard you did well". 
During this week in West Palm Beach there were several incidents of 
sexual contact. At one point, EPSTEIN had forced intercourse with 
He told her that MAXWELL would be mad if she found out. At one point, while 
on the beach, EPSTEIN put his hands down both MAXWELL and 
bikinis 
at the same time. ALAN DERSHOWIT2 is there at some point and wanted 
to sun bath topless. MAXWELL would talk about how nice 
breasts 
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were, stating they were "cute little perky breasts”. When 
was 
topless, MAXWELL would "touch and flick them". Both EPSTEIN and MAXWELL 
discussed having children. EPSTEIN asked 
if she would like to have 
a baby with him. MAXWELL said to 
that EPSTEIN wanted to have a baby 
with "you or someone like you because you are getting too old". 
was 
about 18-19 years old at this time. 
MAXWELL told 
that EPSTEIN needed sex three to four times a day. 
MAXWELL said "whatever we need to do to make him happy; you know these 
tycoons". MAXWELL said this early on in knowing them. 
started to 
notice other girls and massage therapists coming often. When 
was 22 
years old, she traveled with them to EPSTEIN's island. 
EPSTEIN told her to come and work for him. It was more than just massages. 
EPSTEIN would throw money at 
which was degrading. EPSTEIN became 
more mean towards 
recalled 
being there at 
this time. MAXWELL would ask 
towards the end about sexual things 
with EPSTEIN. She would want a report as in, "Did you give him a blow 
job?". MAXWELL would get mad if the answer was no. MAXWELL would say, "I 
have to do everything". At this time, 
was on the island for about 
two weeks. After leaving, 
had a panic attack and a breakdown on the 
plane while heading back to New York. 
did not see MAXWELL or 
EPSTEIN for a long time after this. MAXWELL would call 
every three 
to four months after this and attempt to get her to come back and "go on 
vacation" with them. 
recalled being in 
and MAXWELL paying her for the first 
massage that she had given to EPSTEIN. This was the second time that 
had met EPSTEIN and she received $150. Prior to giving the massage, 
was told by MAXWELL that she would be paid. Afterward, MAXWELL 
asked 
, "Did you like it...did he like it?". 
felt that by 
making this comment, MAXWELL knew what had happened. EPSTEIN told 
that he was not allowed to have full sex with anyone, and that was the deal 
that he and MAXWELL had made. EPSTEIN and MAXWELL would often give money to 
to go shopping. MAXWELL would always ask 
about her sex 
life, or who she was sleeping with. 
was shy about telling her. On 
one occasion, MAXWELL cried to 
about her father. MAXWELL wanted to 
give 
to EPSTEIN but she was nervous. 
recalled meeting TRUMP 
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at a party while with MAXWELL. MAXWELL told TRUMP, "This is who I was 
telling you about". 
MAXWELL asked 
if she knew anyone to give EPSTEIN a massage or 
blow job. MAXWELL said, "We need it now...he's making my life hell". 
MAXWELL told 
, "You know what he likes". To 
knowledge, 
EPSTEIN liked young blonde girls. EPSTEIN had lots of pictures of young 
naked women near his office in West Palm Beach. MAXWELL set up the muffins 
for EPSTEIN in the mornings and said that everything must be perfect for 
EPSTEIN. Everything from the muffins, to the massages, to the girls, 
everything needed to be perfect. EPSTEIN would tell 
that he knew 
how to kill people. 
felt as though it was hard to say no to someone 
when they tell you that. MAXWELL would get money from EPSTEIN. 
knew 
that 
and 
were with EPSTEIN, but did not specifically 
remember them. 
MAXWELL, LESLEY GROFF and 
they would fly separately. 
years old. 
would book 
travel, but 
looked very young when she was 17-18 
After being with EPSTEIN, MAXWELL would often call 
to 
"check in" but would then ask to come see them again. 
GROFF would call and say to 
that EPSTEIN would like to talk to 
her. Then EPSTEIN would get connected and ask about her career. He would 
ask 
to come visit. Sometimes, this happened over email. After the 
fact, 
would not bring up the abuse to MAXWELL and EPSTEIN. 
Sometime around when 
was 31 years old she met EPSTEIN in 
This may have been the last time she saw him. Sometime prior to this, she 
met EPSTEIN in New York and went to his place. He asked her, "How have you 
been and who are you fucking?". He asked, "Is it good and are you cheating 
on me?". He grabbed 
EPSTEIN emailed 
from jail and would request that she send him 
pictures. While assisting attorney-with 
the 
received a threatening phone call from an unknown male. About 3 
years ago, MAXWELL called IIII 
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