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give a massage and that was the end, 
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Topless or a bra? 
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Topless. 
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Okay. 
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So that was it. 
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Okay. Was there ever a time that you ever told 
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him hey, I'm not comfortable with that? 
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The first time he asked me if I would take my 
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jeans off and I told him I wasn't comfortable with that. 
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Okay. 
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I think that's really it. 
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Again, you're not in any trouble. I'm, I'm just 
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trying to --
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Uh-huh. 
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Was there ever a time that he ever tried to touch 
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your vagina? 
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Yes. 
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Seventeen. 
You were 17. Okay. And you went there with whom? 
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brought you? 
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Yes. 
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Okay. Did she tell 
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She said that I could giOe Jeffrey a massage and 
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that he would pay me to do that. t_didn't havt 'to do 
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anything with him. She said tilatAie might ask me to take 
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off a piece of clothing if that was okay with me. She said 
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if not, I didn't have to. 
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Okay. So when did you go? 
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When? 
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Yeah. When was this? 
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I don't remember. It was a long time ago. 
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Was it a year ago? 
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It was a long time ago because --
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More than a year? Less than a year? 
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It had to be in November or December. 
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Of last year? 
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Yeah. 
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Okay. 
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And it was after November. 
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When you walked into the house? 
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Uh-huh. 
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What school did you go to? 
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I went to 
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Okay. So you have your high school diploma? 
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Uh-huh. 
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Okay. You understand all these questions I'm 
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asking you, right? 
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Uh-huh. 
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Okay. Like I said, I know some of this stuff is 
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hard to talk about but it's important because basically 
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you're a potential victim here. 
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Uh-huh. 
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Okay? What kind of panties did you have? Was it 
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a thong underwear or regular panties? 
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A thong. 
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It was a thong. 
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Did he ever tell you to wear anything specific? 
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No. Actually I was just wearing jeans and a 
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shirt. I mean I wasn't dressed in any certain way. 
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Okay. Did she explain to you that you may have to 
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take off your clothes and --
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She said I may have to and said if I didn't want 
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to that I don't have to. 
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raise your right hand for me. Do you solemnly swear to tell 
the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help 
you God? 
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I do. 
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Okay. In your words, tell me exactly how you met 
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this gentleman in Palm Beach. 
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My friends, well, not really friends. 
told me in class that she found a way of making money. You 
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can get money. And then she said that if I ever told 
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anybody she'd beat my ass and so I didn't even know what she 
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was talking about but I was like okay. She said this guy's 
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house, a place where old guys are. And just massage him for 
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45 minutes and get $200. And so she picked me up after 
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work. We went down there. Right before we got in there 
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she's like oh, he might ask you to like take off your shirt 
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or something. But I didn't -- it didn't matter so I said 
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okay. And I went in his house. A lady escorted me up to 
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his room. Had a bed on it. 
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Okay. Let me back you up for a second. 
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Oh-huh. 
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You said this was right before Christmas. 
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Christmas of last year or the year before? 
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Last year. 
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Last year. 
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Uh-huh. 
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was working for him. 
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Yeah. Everybody knew that. 
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I know that. 
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So I just was like I don't know .your that well. We 
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She really doesn't go into detail. I mean I know 
she's gone farther than me but she doesn't really go into 
detail about it. 
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Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to 
add to this statement? 
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No. 
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: No. Okay. At this time 
I'm going to go ahead and conclude the statement. 
The time by my watch is 12:10. 
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information and we are conducting an investigation. We were 
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here last night, spoke with your mom and dad. If you can 
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just start from the beginning as to how you met him. 
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Okay. 
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And how it came about. 
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I met him through my friend 
Okay. How long ago was that? 
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It was probably about almost a year ago. 
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Okay. Okay. 
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And he -- I went there once with her and she gave 
him a massage and then she asked me if I wanted to do it and 
then I did it or whatever and then after that like he kind 
of scared me when I went there so I just decided not to go 
back. 
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Okay. The first time you went with 
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go upstairs with him? 
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No, I stayed down in the kitchen. 
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tell'you that --.- what was 
entailed as to what had to be done? 
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Well she said the first time you go it's just like 
a massage and she said like well, the more you go supposedly 
the more he like expedts and starts flirting with girls and 
that's what kind of like scared me. 
Okay. I've interviewed other girls and they've 
told me pretty much the same thing about the massage but 
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there's more to that. More to the massage. Okay? That's 
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why I didn't want mom to be in here. And you can talk to me 
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about anything. Okay? Like I said, I've interviewed other 
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people already who have told me what transpired in that 
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room. I know it's going to be difficult for you but... 
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Well, the first time I went there I did a massage 
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and he was just asking me a lot of questions. He seemed 
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like really nice. And then he kept like staring at me and 
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stuff. And then like I did a massage and he just kept 
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looking at me and he was like oh, you're being shy and I'm 
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like yeah. And he's like do you feel uncomfortable and I 
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was like yeah, a little bit. And he's like okay. And he 
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said well do you want to stop, and I was like no, it's okay. 
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And he was like why are you like being shy and I was like 
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oh, I don't know, And then he would like change the subject 
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and he started talking about other things. And then when we 
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were done he said that if like I wanted to come back and do 
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more then he would like pay me more and then I would have to 
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talk to 
and I could come back. 
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Okay. What kind of questions did he ask you as 
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you were massaging him? 
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He was asking about -- it was a year ago. I don't 
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remember everything but... 
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Right. 
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He was just asking me if I had any friends that 
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might want to give a massage and I said I don't know. Then 
he asked me about what I wanted to do when I grew up and 
stuff like that and I asked him what he did and he said he 
was like a scientist basically. 
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Okay. Did he ever ask you how old you were? 
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No. 
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No, I don't think so. 
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Well it like was almost a year ago. ;Inaudible) 
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Okay. During the massage did you -- were you 
naked or --
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No. I had my clothes on. 
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You had all your clothes on? 
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Uh-huh. 
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Okay. Did he touch yOu in any way? 
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He was like kind of like leaning towards it but I 
was like you could tell I was shy so I think that's why he 
didn't try. But I heard about other girls that he -- that 
he got flirtatious with then and he made them take off their 
clothes and stuff. 
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Okay. What -- that was the first time you went, 
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Okay. Have you received any massage training? 
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No. 
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No. I have to ask. 
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Yes. 
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Okay. Did you ever go back to his house? 
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Well, I just went there twice. 
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After that --
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After that you've never come back? Never went 
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back? 
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How much did you receive for the massage? 
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Two hundred. 
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You received 200. 
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be involved? 
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She said the first time you go there you pretty 
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much just give a 'massage, but the more you go there like the 
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more he expects. And that's it. That scared me. 
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That's what scared you? 
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Did she say (inaudible) or did she (inaudible --
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SaY didn't have to 'say it exactly but she implied 
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No. 
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What were you wearing? Can you remember? 
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I don't know. It was a long time ago. I don't 
remember exactly. 
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I don't want to tell you wrong. 
I know. And I know you already told your mom what 
happened. And like I said, I know this is hard for you 
but... 
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I was just scared. I just didn't want my name to 
like --
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Don't worry. You're not the only person I've 
talked to. Okay? There's a lot of people that I've talked 
to and I'm going to talk to. 
How did you get to his house? 
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took you the first time and you sat 
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Yeah. 
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What about the second time? 
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The second time I drove and she came with me. 
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