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FBI VOL00009
EFTA00085291
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36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Now does your testimony today summarize the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 19 through 31? A Yes. Q And if I could just refer you to Count 12, which appears on Pages 40 and 41 of the proposed indictment. Is this the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegations that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Three to engage in prostitution and in sexual activity for which a person can be charged with a criminal offense? A Yes. Q Was Jane Doe Number Three under the age of 16 during part of her interactions with Mr. Epstein? A Yes, she was. Q And under Florida law, could Mr. Epstein have been charged with lewd and lascivious molestation, lewd and lascivious conduct, and lewd and lascivious exhibition based upon his touching of Jane Doe Number Three's breasts, genitals, his solicitation of Jane Doe Number Three in a lewd and lascivious act and his masturbation and OFFICIAL PranPTTmn grpurry , LLC EFTA00085651
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4 37 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 exposure of his genitals to her? A Yes. Q All right. Let's turn to Jane Does Four, Five, and Six, please, and could you tell the grand jury who Four, Five and Six are? A Jane Doe Four, Number Four is a white female named She was born in She attended both High School High School in Palm Beach County. Jane Doe Number Five is a white female named . She was born in She attended High School in Palm Beach County, Florida. Jane Doe Number Six is a white female named She was born in and she' attended High School in Palm Beach County, Florida. Q Have the three Jane Does Four, Five, and Six been interviewed? A Yes. Q And during what period of time did they have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A In or around the first half of 2004 possibly going into the summer months is when we OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085652
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4 39 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Four's underwear was pulled aside by Mr. Epstein and he stroked her- Q And she was paid following that massage as well? A Yes, she was. Q Who led Jane Does Four and Five up to the bedroom during that first massage? A Jane Does Four and Five went upstairs. They were taken upstairs by And what evidence is there regarding Jeffrey Epstein's knowledge of Jane Doe Number Four's true age? A Jane Doe Number Four told Mr. Epstein how old she was. Q In respond to his question about her age? A Yes. I'm sorry. Mr. Epstein asked her age and she informed Mr. Epstein of her true age at the time. Q Now during -- you mentioned that the first massage that the two of them were together, Jane Does Four and Five, and did Mr. Epstein masturbate in front of them at that time? A Yes, he did, and I should say that Mr. Epstein requested them to remove their clothing OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085653
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4 40 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 during that massage as well. Q Okay. And did he ever instruct Jane Doe Number Four to play with his nipples? A Yes. Q You said that Jane Doe Number Four returned after that first massage, correct? A Yes. Q How was she contacted to set up those later massages? A Jane Doe Number Four was contacted by Q Via telephone? A Via telephone, yes. Q Did Jane Doe Number Four bring anyone else to Jeffrey Epstein's home? A Jane Doe Number Four brought Jane Doe Number Six. Jane Doe Number Four and Jane Doe Number Six performed the massage together and then Jane Doe Number Four was asked to leave. At that point, the sexual activity that was performed on Jane Doe Number Six by Mr. Epstein was the digital penetration of Jane Doe Number Six' as well as the use of a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Six's vagina. He did masturbate. OFFICIAL. RPPORTTNG SFIRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085654
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41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 He did pay Jane Doe Number Six $200 for that massage, and Jane Doe Number Six did not return again after that massage. Q Did Mr. Epstein ask anything related to Jane Doe in terms of her age or something that would indicate her age? A He asked them where they went to high school. Q And did she respond? A Yes, she told him she went t Q Does your testimony cover the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 32 through 45? A Yes. Q And if I could refer you to Count Three, which is on Page 39, is the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that 19 Jeffrey Epstein and procured Jane Doe 20 Number Four to engage in commercial sex acts 21 knowing that she was under 18? 22 A Yes. 23 Q So in other words, Jeffrey Epstein knew 24 her age before he asked her that the second time? 25 I A Yes. OFFICIAL APPOPTTNC SFRVTrE, LLC EFTA00085655
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42 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And referring to Count 13, which is on Page 41 and 42, is this evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegations that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Four to engage in prostitution? A Yes. We have the testimony of Jane Doe Numbers Four, Five, and Six as well as others and we also have telephonic contact between Jane Doe Number Five by just shortly before her 18th birthday. Q All right. If I could refer you to Jane Does Number Nine and Ten at this point. The Overt Acts related to them start on Page 17. Let's start with Jane Doe Number Nine. Can you remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number Nine is? A Jane Doe Number Nine is a white female named She was born in and she attended High School. Q And have you testified about her previously? A Yes. Q Is there anything that you want to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085656
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43 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 either clarify or add regarding your earlier testimony? A There is one thing that I'd like to add that I didn't testify to earlier about an incident that occurred in November, specifically, November 28, 2004. Jane Doe Number Nine was 17 years of age and we have a police document in the Town of Palm Beach that shows that Jane Doe Number One mean, Jane Doe Number Nine was provided with an envelope filled with money that Mr. Epstein had arranged for one of his employees to give Jane Doe Number Nine. The reason the Palm Beach Police Department were called in is the employee didn't recognize Jane Doe Number Nine's car, which was parked in the driveway. So he contacted the police. Once the police came out though, Mr. Epstein's employee went and retrieved an envelope and it had money in it. The employee told the police that Jane Doe Number Nine was a massage therapist and continued with the officer stating off the record that Mr. Epstein had many young girls that come over for that. OFFICIAL Dr1^1,TTVfl eronT^E, LLC EFTA00085657
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And that related to Overt Act Number 80 on Page 18? A Yes, it does. Q Okay. And can you just remind the grand jury during what period of time Jane Doe Number Nine had contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number Nine had contract between July 2004 and September of 2005, during that time period. And how old was she during that time frame? A She was 17 up until her birthday, which is the end of December of 2004, but continued to have contact with Mr. Epstein after she was 18. Q And can you summarize the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number Nine was involved in with Mr. Epstein? A Yes. Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe Number Nine's breasts. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane Doe Number Nine. Mr. Epstein used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Nine's He Jane Doe Number Nine. He performed oral sex on Jane Doe Number Nine. Mr. Epstein his penis OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085658
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• 45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 into the of Jane Doe Number Nine. Jane Doe Number Nine watched per Mr. Epstein's request as Mr. Epstein engaged in oral sex and sexual intercourse with Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number Nine to perform oral sex on When Jane Doe Number Nine didn't want to do that, Mr. Epstein offered her an additional $200 if Jane Doe Number Nine would perform oral sex on for five minutes, which Jane Doe Number Nine did. Q And how much was Jane Doe Number Nine paid? A Jane Doe Number Nine was paid -- on the first visit we have that she was paid $200. She was paid anywhere from $300 to $1 ,000. Q And what did that depend on? A The sexual activity. $300 to $600 was the sexual activity. The one time we have noted that she was given $1 ,000 was when he of her. Q And you mentioned that Jane Doe Number Nine was still seeing Mr. Epstein after she turned 18. What evidence do you have that corroborates her statements that these activities that we are OFFICIAL PFPC)RTTNG cFRVIrE, LLC EFTA00085659
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46 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 talking about occurred before she was 18? A we have phone records. We have message pads. We have obtained documents that are from Majestic Theater and from Jet Blue that indicate that Mr. Epstein purchased a ticket for Jane Doe Number Nine for her 18th birthday. She actually flew to New York on her 18th birthday. Mr. Epstein thought it would be better for her to travel when she turned 18. So she traveled to New York and Mr. Epstein purchased tickets -- or paid for her to see the Phantom of the Opera, which was being performed at the Majestic Theater. Q Now when you say Mr. Epstein, who was actually making the calls? A I'm sorry. Mr. Epstein's assistant, Q Okay. Let's talk about Jane Doe Number Ten as well because they are related. Can you remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number Ten is? Jane Doe Number Ten is a white female and she was born in She attended High School, and I talked about her prior. Q You have talked about her previously? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085660
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47 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q Is there anything that you want to clarify or add related to that testimony? A No, nothing. Q And can you remind the grand jury during what period of time Jane Doe Number Ten was involved with Mr. Epstein? A She went to Mr. Epstein's residence in July of 2004 to November 2005. We have her still in contact with Mr. Epstein. Q And how old was she during that time frame? A She was 17. Up until she turned 18. Q And how is Jane Doe Number Ten related to Jane Doe Number Nine in connection with these events? A Jane Doe Number Nine brought Jane Doe Number Ten to Mr. Epstein's residence. Q Now if I could refer you to Overt Act Number 67, and it says on or about July 16, 2004, Defendant caused Jane Doe Number Nine to make one or more telephone calls to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number Ten. Do you see that? OFFICIAL REPORTING SFRVIC , LLC EFTA00085661
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48 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q Can you tell us in addition to the testimony from Jane Doe Number Nine what the telephone records show? A An examination of Jane Doe Number Nine's cell phone records show that she contacted Jane Doe Number Ten, and if you examine records you will see that there was contact between Jane Doe Number Nine and Q On the same day? A On the same day. Q All right. What was the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number Ten was involved with, with Jeffrey Epstein? A I'm sorry. One second. I just want to look at this. Okay. I'm sorry. What was your question? Q What was the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number Ten was involved in with Mr. Epstein? A Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe Number Ten's breasts. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane Doe Number Ten. Mr. Epstein used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Ten's and he also touched Jane Doe Number Ten's OFFICIAL RPPORTTNGI SFRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085662
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• 49 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q How much did Jane Doe Number Ten receive? A Jane Doe Number Ten was paid $200. Q And she went to Mr. Epstein's home more than once? A Yes. Q Can you give the grand jury an idea of how many phone calls there were between and Jane Doe Number Nine A Yes. There were approximately 225 phone calls. Q And they are in the documents and records that you have? A Yes. Q And what about Jane Doe Number Ten? A There were over 100 phones calls between and Jane Doe Number Ten, and there were also phone calls between Jane Doe Number Ten and and those were approximately eight calls between Jane Doe Number Ten and with only one being prior to her 18th birthday. There were also approximately seven calls with with all but one after her 18th birthday. That one was actually on her OFFICIAL REPORTING SERV CE, LLC EFTA00085663
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50 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 18th birthday. Q And those calls that you are referring to relate only to the cellular telephone records that you have, correct? A Yes. Q So if there were calls from Jeffrey Epstein's phone numbers to or from that number that couldn't necessarily be captured? A No. Q Okay. Now if I could just ask you to look at Count Four. Does your testimony today and your prior testimony summarize the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and procured Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in commercial sex acts knowing she was under 18? A Yes. Q And in Count 15 is the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q And also the offense charges using a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085664
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51 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in sexual activity for which the person can be charged with a criminal offense. With respect to Jane Doe Number Nine, what is this offense that Mr. Epstein could have been charged with, with respect to that activity with her? A The sexual intercourse . Epstein penetrated Jane Doe Number Nine' with his penis. Q And then with respect to Jane Doe Number Ten, Count Five charges that Jeffrey Epstein and procured Jane Doe Number Ten to engage in commercial sex acts knowing that she was under 18. How do you summarize for us the evidence supporting that? A Yes. The only thing I'd like to add to that is we also do have message pads that were obtained through the Town of Palm Beach with the execution of the search warrant at Mr. Epstein's residence as well as trash pulls that the Town of Palm Beach conducted in the spring of '05, 2005, and one of those trash pulls I believe -- is it Overt Act 81? Q Yes, 81 . OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085665
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52 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A The trash pull -- found in the trash pull conducted by the Town of Palm Beach was Jeffrey Epstein's letterhead and on it handwritten that says 10:30, and then on Friday around 2:00, and then there's a underneath it. 2005. This was obtained on April 1 st, And then the message pad that I referred to -- I'm sorry, the trash pull was Overt Act 147. The Overt Act was 81 , and that message pad is that message is from Jeffrey Epstein dated December 4, 2004. The time is 2:55 p.m. The message is from and it's written, would like to work at 4:00 p.m. if possible, and then in parenthesis, is scheduled for 5:00 today. At the bottom it says, the movie is at 7:30. Q And you said that was written by Defendant and it's addressed to Jeffrey Epstein? A Yes. THE FOREPERSON: We need a break. Okay. Should we take ten minutes? THE FOREPERSON: Is this a good time? OFFICIAL nrne"7"7"Mn c'r°"TCE, LLC EFTA00085666
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 This is fine. (Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) (Thereupon, a short break was taken.) (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) We are back on the record. Is there a quorum? THE FOREPERSON: Yes. BY L: Q We were just finishing up with Jane Doe Number Ten. Special Agent you summarized a lot of evidence relating to Jane Doe Number Ten. Is the evidence that you summarized also the basis for the allegation in Count 16 that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Ten to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q Okay. I just want to review with you, Special Agent that you did, in fact, previously testify about background information regarding the defendants in this indictment? A Yes. Q And that was in one of your earlier OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085667
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54 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 transcripts? A Yes. Q Okay. I also wanted to ask you about the victims who we have discussed today. We have discussed eight victims, Jane Does One through Six and Nine and Ten. Are you aware of whether any of those victims have used illicit drugs or have had mental health issues? A Yes. Q And can you summarize that for the grand jury? A Jane Doe Number -- we'll start with Jane Doe Number Two. After the contact or during the contact, but after she had met Mr. Epstein, Jane Doe Number Two between ages 15 and 17. I guess what I am trying to say is that she first had contact with Mr. Epstein when she was 14 years of age. So when I interviewed Jane Doe Number Two, she informed me that started between the ages 15 to 17. She had a OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085668
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55 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Her mother had Doe Number Two told me that helped her Jane Q Meaning you can be A Yes. health issues? Q I did. And did you ask me about mental A And she had also been i Jane Doe Number Two revealed to us that when she was very young, and has suffered from that ever since. Q Any other Jane Does? A Yes. Jane Doe Number Three also has a OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085669
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56 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 She dropped out of school at an early age. Jane Doe Number Three expressed that she just wanted to feel numb. She stayed with a lot of -- she did not stay at home a lot after age 15 due to the fact that Q Okay. A And then the last Jane Doe that we talked about would have been Jane Doe Number Nine, and we do have information that she has Q With respect to those Jane Does, did you go about getting independent corroboration for their statements so that you weren't relying exclusive on what they told you about Mr. Epstein? A Yes. We talked about that today. Specifically, with Jane Doe Number Two, we have her statement, but along with that statement we have telephone records. Those telephone records indicate telephonic contact with We have the OFFICIAL REPORT:NG SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085670