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18 Federal Grand Jury 07-103
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19 U.S. Courthouse
West Palm Beach, Florida
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• 1 The sworn testimony of was
2 taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm
3 Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse,
4 Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on'Tuesday,
5 April 24, 2007.
6 Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court
7 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida,
8 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews
9 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida,
10 33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn
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1 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.)
2 THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear
3 that the testimony you give will be the
4 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
5 truth, so help you God?
6 THE WITNESS: I do.
7 THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be
8 seated.
9 EXAMINATION
10 BY III
11 Q Good afternoon, Ms. . Could you
12 state and spell your name for the record?
13 A
14 And where do you currently live?
15 A I live -- do you want me to give the
16 address?
17 Q Sure.
18 ,'West Palm Beach,
19 Florida 33412.
20 Q Okay. And you are living with your
21 parents now?
22 A Yes.
23 Q Were you served with a subpoena to
24 appear before the grand jury today?
25 A Yes.
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1 Q And do you understand that an order was
2 signed by a judge compelling you to appear and
3 answer questions?
4 A Yes.
5 Q And that order states that what you tell
6 the grand jury won't be used against unless you
7 perjure yourself?
8 A Yes.
9 Q Do you understand that you are under
10 oath, and if you don't tell the truth --
11 A I can go to jail, yes.
12 Q Okay. Let's start with where you went
13 to high school.
14 A
15 Q How old are you today?
16 A Twenty-one.
17 Q And what is your date of birth?
18 A
19 .Q What year did you graduate from
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21 A 2004.
22 Q And where are you currently working?
23 A I currently am not working.
24 Q But you are
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1 Q Where will that be?
2 A Fort Lauderdale, Coral Springs.
3 Q What type of position will that be?
4 A
5 Q Have you worked since the time that you
6 graduated from high school?
7 A Uh-huh.
Q Can you tell the grand jury what type of
9 jobs you have had?
10 A I worked at
11 worked in a club up in Orlando as as
12 well. I have also worked at a sports bar as a
13 waitress.
14 Q when you were in high school, where did
15 you work?
16 A and
17 ▪ And do you know Jeffrey Epstein?
18 A Yes, I do..
19 Q Can you tell the grand jury how you
20 first came to meet Mr. Epstein?
21 A I met Epstein through two acquaintances,
22 and , and I met them at a beach resort.
23 They made a proposition to me. Later then I
24 picked them up and they gave me directions to the
25 house and that's where I was formerly introduced
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1 to Mr. Epstein.
2 Q . Okay. And Let me just go back over that
3 a little bit. You mentioned that you had two
4' acquaintances, and , and you met them at
5 a beach resort, correct?
6 A Yes.
7 Q And you said that they made a
8 proposition to you. What was that exactly?
9 A had asked me if I wanted to make
10 money and she was working for this guy, Epstein,
11 in Palm Beach. So I told her I was interested and
12 she further went into detail about massaging him,
13 that you would have to take off articles of
14 clothing and there would be touching and fondling
15 involved.
16 Q How old were you when this happened?
17 A About 16.
18 Q And how old was
19 A Same age.
20 Q And how did you know MIF
21 A We went to together.
22 Q And she was in your same grade in high
23 school?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q And you mentioned that had
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1 previously worked for Epstein or was currently
2 working for Epstein?
3 A Yes, that's right.
4 Q So they explained this proposal to you
5 and you said that you would be interested?
6 A Yes.
7 Q What happened next?
8 A Within a couple of days to a week I
9 picked them up and I went to his house to work for
10 him and I was introduced to , who is his
11 assistant. She took me upstairs to Epstein's
12 bedroom and that's where the massage took place.
13 I was naked and he tried fondling me and
14 I wouldn't have it, so after the massage he gave
15 me another proposition to bring girls to the house
16 and for every girl that I brought I would make
17 $200.
18 Q All right. We'll go back over that a
19 little more slowly. I know this is a lot of
20 information. So let's go back to the proposition
21 that and made to you.
22 Did they say you would be paid for
23 massaging Mr. Epstein?
24 A Yes.
25 Q And how much would you be paid?
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1 A $200.
2 Q Now you said that they had told you that
3 you might have to take your clothing off?
4 A They told me that I was expected to take
S my clothing off and that there would be fondling.
6 Q Okay. And what -- did they explain
7 what fondling meant?
a A Just that he'd be touching me.
9 Q Okay. And so you agreed to do that and
10 you went to Mr. Epstein's home?
11 A Correct.
12 Q And where was that located?
13 A Palm Beach, Brillo Way.
14 Q B-R-I-L-L-O?
15 A Yes.
16 Q And when you arrived at the home, you
17 said that you were driving with and IIII?
18 A That is correct.
19 Q Tell us how you got into the house.
20 A We went through a gate on the side of
21 the house that led to the back and we just rang
22 the doorbell and answered the door and we
23 were standing in the kitchen and then
24 brought me upstairs.
25 Q Okay. Now did you have any -- did
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2 got upstairs?
3 A No, she never discussed that with me.
4 Q Did she say anything to you about taking
5 your clothes off?
6 A No, she never discussed that with me.
7 Q Okay. When you arrived upstairs, you
8 said that you went into a bedroom?
9 A That is correct. •
10 Q What was in the bedroom?
11 A It was a bedroom that had a door that
12 led to then I want to say a bigger more than just
13 a bathroom. It was a bigger room with like a
14 pretty large size walk-in closet, a shower, a
15 steam shower, and then two sinks. on the right, and
16 in the middle laid the massage table, and then to
17 the left there was two couches.
18 Q And so the massage table was already set
19 up when you arrived?
20 A That is correct.
21 Q Okay. And after led you up to the
22 bedroom, what did she do?
23 A She had left and that's when Epstein
24 came in.
25 Q Okay. And when Mr. Epstein came in,
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1 what was he wearing?
2 A He was wearing a towel.
3 Q Okay. And nothing else?
4 A Nothing else.
5 Q And what did he do?
6 A He laid on the table and that's when the
7 massage began and later on he -- when he got in, I
8 took off my clothes and I was just wearing my
9 bottoms, and he later tried to touch me and he
10 grabbed my butt, and that's when. I had a problem.
11 I told him that I didn't feel comfortable.
12 So later he took the towel off and he
13 was laying on his back and he
14 asking me to
15 and then after that everything
16 was done.
17 Q Okay. So when Mr. Epstein
18 then the massage or whatever was over?
19 A Yes, it was.
20 Q And once that happened, what did he do?
21 A Just got up and dried himself off and
22 then walked me downstairs.
23 Q And you got dressed as well?
24 A That's right.
25 Q And when you got back downstairs, what
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1 happened?
2 A I went back into the kitchen and he
3 pulled and aside and then we just left.
4 Of course, I got paid.
5 Q Okay. And tell us where you got paid,
6 who paid you, and how much you received?
7 A Epstein paid me. I received 200, but I
8 cannot recall if it was upstairs that he paid me
or if he waited until I got back downstairs.
10 Q Okay. And when he paid you the $200,
11 was it in small bills, large bills?
12 A Big bills, 100s.
13 Q Okay. So two 100 dollar bills. And you
14 said that he pulled and aside. Do you
15 know what that was about?
16 A He would never pay them in front of me.
17 He always was funny about that. So I'm sure it
18 was just paying them for bringing me.
19 Q Okay. And you mentioned that you told
20 Mr. Epstein that you were uncomfortable with him
21 touching you?
22 A That's correct.
23 Q And what bec.ame of that?
24 A Later on before I left he had addressed
25 me to not massage him anymore, but asked me if I
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1 could bring girls over, and for every girl that I
2 brought to the table he would pay me $200.
3 • Q Okay. So you weren't comfortable with
4 him touching you, so you weren't going to do any
5 more massages?
6 A No.
7 Q He wanted you to find other girls?
8 A That's correct.
9 Q And he wanted girls that would let him
10 touch them?
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11 A Uh-huh.
12 Q After that first massage, did you
13 perform any other massages at his house?
14 A Absolutely not..
15 Q Did you bring girls?
16 A That's correct.
17 Q Tell us how you started to bring girls
18 to Mr. Epstein's house.
19 A Just girls that I met in high school,
20 acquaintances, people that I just said hi and bye
21 to. A lot of them actually heard about it through
22 a couple of girls that I brought and they were
23 interested.
24 Some of the girls asked me about it.
25 Just girls in school I'd talk to, just get on the
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1 subject. They had no problem with it.
2 Q Okay. So when you found a girl that you
3 thought would be interested, what exactly would
4 you tell her?
5 A I asked them if they were interested in
6 making extra money and that I knew an older
7 wealthier man in Palm Beach who liked to have
8 massages and they would get paid $200.
9 The more they did, the more they make,
10 and I would explain to them in detail what was
11 expected of them when they showed up at the house
12 and I also told them that if they are under age
13 just lie about it and tell him that you are 18
14 Q Let's talk first about what you said
15 that you tell them what was expected of them.
16 A Yes.
17 Q First of all, why did you tell them
18 that?
19 A Because that's what I was told
20 O By whom?
21 A and
22 Q Okay. And did Jeffrey Epstein ever
23 address you about don't bring girls over here if
24 they don't know what's going to happen?
25 A Absolutely.
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1 Q Okay. So all the girls were supposed to
2 know that when they got there they would be
3 undressing?
4 A They would be undressing. There would
5 be. touching. There would be fondling. He was
6 very big on that. He told me never to bring a
7 girl over unless they knew what was expected.
8 Q Okay. And did you also tell them that
9 he would
10 A I didn't really talk to them about that.
11 I didn't know if he did it with everybody or it
12 was just with me that he did that.
13 Q But you told them that they all would
14 have to be partially naked or fully naked?
15 A Partially to fully naked and there would
16 be touching and fondling.
17 Q Okay. How many girls do you think you
18 took to Mr. Epstein's house?
19 A Seven, between seven to ten.
20 Q Okay. And were there any -- in addition
21 to this rule about the girls had to know what was
22 expected, did Mr. Epstein have any other rules in
23 terms of what the girls looked like or what he
24 liked?
25 A No.
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1 Q Okay. Were there girls that you brought
2 that he didn't like?
3 A There were a few girls he wasn't crazy
4 about. He didn't really like. He didn't favor.
5 for instance, 23, he thought she was kind
6 of too old.
7 Q Okay. So you brought a girl named
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who was 23 years old?
9 A Yes.
10 Q And you were told that she was too old?
11 A Yes.
12 Q Did you ever bring her back?
13 A No.
14 Q What about any other girls that he
15 didn't like?
16 A This other girl T went to high school
17 with, III, she was maybe a year younger, and him
18 and her got . I told
19 her in detail what was expected and she, to me,
20 was all for it and then when she got there,
21 decided she didn't want to perform what was
22 necessary. So they got
23 and after that I never really brought her
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25 Q Okay. And did either Jeffrey Epstein
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1 or say anything to you about what happened
2 with III?
3 A He had made a comment just about
4 had asked -- he had asked me for someone to come
5 over and work and when I suggested III, he kind of
6 nodded, not really interested. He told me to find
7 somebody else. So I assumed that meant he really
8 didn't care for her.
9 Q Okay. Now the -- you mentioned
10 who was 23. What was the age range of the other
11 girls that you brought to Mr. Epstein's home?
12 A High school, 16 to 18.
13 Q Were there any girls who were younger
14 than that?
15 A Yes.
16 Q Who was that?
17 A
18 Q And how was she?
19 A' She was 14.
20 Q Okay. Now you were interviewed by the
21 Palm Beach Police Department?
22 A That's correct.
23 Q And during that interview, you told them
24 that there were two ways to make money with
25 Jeffrey Epstein. Can you explain to the grand
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jury what those two ways are?
2 A The more you did is the more you make.
3 Basically, the more clothes that come off, the
4 more you let him touch you, the more you just let
him have his way with you is the more that you
6 would make, otherwise, you would be demoted down
7 to bringing girls over and just making money that
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9 Q And that's what you were doing?
10 A That's correct.
1 1 Q Was bringing girls?
12 A That's correct.
13 Q If you could explain to the grand jury
14 how you would go about making an appointment for a
15 girl to come and give a massage?
16 A His assistant there would call me either
17 before they got into town or while he was in town
18 and either she would ask me for a particular girl,
19 preferably one that he favored, or if I couldn't
20 get a hold of that girl just bring somebody over
21 to work.
22 I would call the girl. She would okay
23 it. I would call back, confirm it, set an
24 appointment, and then the next couple of days we'd
25 go.
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1 Q And was the person that you always
2 made the appointment with?
3 A Always.
4 • Do you remember ever talking to Jeffrey
5 Epstein on the telephone?
6 A Never. The only time I talked to him
7 was physically in person at his house.
8 • Okay. was really the person that
9 you had to•--
10 A Deal with.
11 Q Okay. Now you mentioned that sometimes
12 would request a specific girl?
13 A That's correct.
14 Q Did she give you any reason why he
15 really liked this girl or just is this girl
16 available? What would happen on those calls?
17 A If it was a specific girl, she would
18 call me and just ask: Can this girl work? She
19 would never give me a reason. She would never go
20 into detail. It was just: Can she work, yes or
21 no?
22 Q And was saying to you can she
23 work?
24 A I can't recall if those were her exact
25 words. I can't remember if it•was: Can she come
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