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1 performed two to three massages out of those five
2 or ten and in her underwear and bra only, and
3 that he would push her each time.
4 He would just push her to do more and on
5 the third -- I believe she stated the third or
6 fourth massage, he told her that she could make
7 more money if she removed her clothing, because
8 she stayed clothed during the first few massages,
9 and she was paid $200 for each of those massages.
10 On the third or fourth massage, Mr.
11 Epstein said that she could make more money if she
12 removed her clothing. So around the fourth or
13 fifth time, she did start taking off her clothing
14 down to her underwear and bra only.
15 Q And then what happened when she was at
16 that point of being unclothed?
17 A She would perform the massage. He
18 attempted to touch her, but she always would say
19 no. At one point, her bra does get undone by Mr.
20 Epstein, but she does keep it up.
21 Q Now that was the extent of his touching
22 At some point, did he
23 in front of her?
24 A Yes, he did. Not in the very beginning,
25 but throughout this he did. Now I should tell you
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1 that stated to us that because she was kind
2 of reserved or held back as he made advances
3 towards her, she was able to see Mr. Epstein's
4 and that he but that he
5 , that he . She did
6 not feel that Mr. Epstein liked her very much.
7 Q But just to sort of compare what
8 said with what said, they both said that
9 at the beginning they remained clothed?
10 A Yes.
1 1 Q And that Mr. Epstein progressively
12 pushed and pushed and pushed for more sexual
13 activity?
14 A Yes.
15 Q Now what was the period of time that
16 went to Mr. Epstein's home?
17 A March of I'm sorry, spring of '05 is
18 when said that she went there and around,
19 you know, the investigation is heating up with
20 Palm Beach, so we know that in September of '05,
21 there was a trash pull done, and in that trash
22 pull there was a message and that was found and it
23 stated -- it had phone number on it and
24 it stated, for a good time call and
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1 Q And whose stationery was that?
2 A It was on Jeffrey Epstein's stationery.
3 Q And had Jeffrey Epstein been in a Palm
4 Beach resident close to those dates?
5 A Yes.
6 Q Now is there evidence of telephone calls
7 between and
8 A Yes.
9 Q And how many phone calls have you been
10 able to identify?
1 1 A At this time, there have been 14 phone
12 calls.
13 • All right. And just to compare that to
14 the number of phone calls with
15 A With , there was over 150 phone
16 calls between and
17 Q And that is sort of consistent with the
18 number of massages that did versus the
19 number of massages that did?
20 A It is consistent with especially the
21 activity that was providing Mr. Epstein
22 compared to the activity that would
23 provide.
24 (Thereupon, knocking is heard at the
25 Grand Jury door.)
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1 Let me just step out for
2 one moment.
3 exits the Grand Jury
4 Room.)
5 enters the Grand Jury
6 Room.)
7 Ladies and gentlemen, I
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am going to have to take a break now and we
9 will be back either next week or the
10 following week. Thank you very much. You
1 1 are done for the day.
12 (Witness was excused.)
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18 Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the
19 transcript is a true and correct transcription of
20 my stenotype notes of the testimony of
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