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Saint Andrews Plaza, 
III, AUSA 
, Special Agent 
After being advised of the 
nature of the interview, 
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 
, date of birth 
New York, New York. Present 
, AUSA 
and 
Date of entry 
 
01/15/2020
was interviewed at One 
for the interview was AUSA 
Detective 
attorney 
identity of the above listed individuals and the 
provided the following information: 
Not long after meeting JEFFREY EPSTEIN, 
described what she calls 
the "training period". During 
taught her sexual experiences. 
look for, including younger females and descriptions. EPSTEIN would 
describe that he doesn't like black people, piercings and tattoos. EPSTEIN 
would say the "girl from next door" and "younger the better". 
MAXWELL and EPSTEIN would constantly remind her of what EPSTEIN liked. 
would have a lot of conversations with EPSTEIN in his steam room. 
was scared at the time as it was just her and EPSTEIN. 
would be touching EPSTEIN's feet. 
would be on the bottom tier in 
the steam room and his feet would be in the middle. 
this time, EPSTEIN and GHISLAINE MAXWELL 
They would have conversations about what to 
recalled having a conversation with MAXWELL and 
outside one day while smoking a cigarette. They were outside the "yellow 
room" and were sneaking the cigarette because EPSTEIN didn't like people who 
smoked. 
asked MAXWELL how she handled EPSTEIN with the girls. 
MAXWELL stated it "takes pressure off me having to do it". 
said the 
"more we get, less we have to do". MAXWELL stated that he loves them 
young. The younger the better. 
understood that to mean under 18 
because that was her age and MAXWELL and EPSTEIN wanted girls her age. 
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was given some money to go shopping and to recruit girls. She 
was told the "younger the better". If she didn't bring enough girls or the 
right girls she would be in trouble. 
understood that EPSTEIN had a 
sex addiction. 
was told by EPSTEIN that he would give her $300 
instead of $200 for incentive if he liked the girl she brought in. 
MAXWELL would teach 
how to recruit. MAXWELL and 
would go 
shopping together. MAXWELL would say "see that girl over there...go get 
her". 
was told to say something like "I know this really nice guy 
who likes to help people out, you can make some money, he can help with 
education and modelling". 
would tell the girls they were going to 
have to give massages but they were not normal massages. MAXWELL was a 
master at walking up to strangers. 
When 
had time off from being with EPSTEIN she would tell people 
at parties about all the stuff she has and the apartment that she paid for. 
would sometimes be told "here's $500, go shopping, go to sex 
store see if girls are hanging around". 
was on Xanax around this 
time. If 
was to get a "yes" from a girl she would give them her 
cell phone number or she would get their number and tell them "I'll let you 
know". 
would then describe the girl to EPSTEIN. On occasion, 
would bring the girl in and EPSTEIN would not like her, then 
would get in trouble. 
would maybe pick up a girl or maybe the girl 
would call 
would tell EPSTEIN that she stopped a girl when 
sometimes she didn't just to show him that she was trying. 
would 
call MAXWELL and say that she has a girl who wants to come to massage 
EPSTEIN. MAXWELL would schedule a day and time. 
was a mastermind in finding girls. 
would watch her 
do it. 
MAXWELL would say to 
"you're so bad at this let me show you how 
it's done". One time in France, MAXWELL approached a beautiful red headed 
girl. 
stayed back to observe. MAXWELL asked her if she would like 
to make money, then they all went back together to a hotel as EPSTEIN's 
apartment was being renovated. 
Some of the parties that 
brought girls to EPSTEIN would like some 
of the girls and he would get their numbers. 
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was great at what she did. 
felt that 
"did not fit in the box" of EPSTEIN's typical girls. 
das good at 
picking up girls and very sexual. 
would get driven by 
Girls would go to 
house then they would go to EPSTEIN's together. MAXWELL would tell 
what time to bring them. Sometimes 
would give the girls EPSTEIN's 
address and they would go to the mansion. 
JUAN ALESSI was EPSTEIN's driver in Palm Beach. He would pick up 
and drop her off. Sometimes 
had girls with her. 
Sometimes, when 
arrived at the house, she would knock on the door 
and it would be answered by either ALESSI, MARY (MARIA), MAXWELL, or 
If MAXWELL answered the door and liked what she saw she would say "hi, how 
are you". It would be very limited interaction with MAXWELL. 
would 
bring the girl upstairs. If she brought them, she would stay in the room 
through the whole massage if EPSTEIN liked them. 
does not recall 
bringing anyone in New York. 
remembered bringing girls in Florida 
because she would meet girls at parties. 
estimated that she brought approximately less than 20 girls but 
is not sure of the exact number. Bringing in girls was what 
regrets 
the most. 
witnessed so many girls coming through the door. 
was subservient and did whatever EPSTEIN wanted. EPSTEIN told 
to 
quit 
so she did. If EPSTEIN ever told her to see him at 5 
o'clock she came at 5 o'clock. 
traveled quite soon after meeting 
EPSTEIN. She initially thought it was 6 months after her "training period" 
started, but after comparing her 
records to flight records thinks 
it was 3 months. There was a lot of travel. The travel seemed as though it 
was weekly, or every other week. 
At some point, 
got strung out on drugs and EPSTEIN told her he 
did not want her around at that time. At some point, 
got in trouble 
with the police. 
called EPSTEIN and told him that, "I know you own 
the Palm Beach Police Department and I'm in trouble, can you help me?". 
MAXWELL would call 
parents' house. If her parents would answer 
they would tell 
that MAXWELL called. 
did not have a cell 
phone. 
stayed in one of the apartments on 66th street. On one 
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occasion, 
went for a walk and was gone for a few hours. MAXWELL and 
EPSTEIN were waiting for her when she returned and were angry that she was 
not waiting for them inside the apartment. At this time, MAXWELL bought 
a cell phone. Also on this day, they tell 
to get her stuff 
and she goes to stay with them on the 4th floor of his mansion. The only 
time 
would leave would be if EPSTEIN told her to go to the sex store 
or to go find girls. 
does not remember staying at EPSTEIN's mansion 
in Palm Beach. EPSTEIN gave 
money for an apartment in Florida. 
hen 
started going to EPSTEIN's, she would not tell her parents she was 
going there. She told them that she was working on her massage therapist 
certification. She would tell her parents she would not be home for a few 
days and they wouldn't argue with her about it. 
recalled bringing to EPSTEIN a blonde girl with wavy hair that 
EPSTEIN loved but does not remember her name. 
brought 
, her boyfriend 
EPSTEIN didn't like her as 
she was dark skinned and had piercings. 
lived in Royal Palm 
Beach. He previously worked as a 
rior to dating 
but was not 
sure where he had worked. 
EPSTEIN had a duffel bag that he kept under his desk in Palm Beach that 
contained large sums of money in it. Sometimes EPSTEIN would pay the girls 
from there. Sometimes EPSTEIN would tell 
to get the money from 
ALESSI. 
Around this time, 
wanted to make MAXWELL happy. MAXWELL and 
EPSTEIN wanted to show 
the world. MAXWELL was the mastermind to 
make all this happen for EPSTEIN. Sometimes MAXWELL would be really nice if 
she wanted something. There was a dark side to MAXWELL that would make 
feel like garbage as in "you owe me" for what you're 
eating...wearing etc. 
feels that this situation wasn't purely just about money. She 
described it as a dysfunctional family to include 
EPSTEIN, MAXWELL 
and 
described a situation that occurred on EPSTEIN's island 
in which they were all watching "Sex and the City" and eating popcorn. 
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Towards the end of the episode 
was massaging EPSTEIN's feet. 
EPSTEIN directed MAXWELL to take off her clothes and she told 
down on her. Then she would get 
involved. 
to go 
On another occasion in West Palm Beach, MAXWELL used a very large sexual 
toy on 
told her that it hurt but MAXWELL did not stop. 
This was on EPSTEIN's bed and MAXWELL "got off on it". MAXWELL hated the 
girls. EPSTEIN had a sickness and so did MAXWELL. MAXWELL had an ever 
changing personality. 
had seen MAXWELL recruit and heard from other 
people including MAXWELL that she recruited. 
MAXWELL stated that it takes the pressure off of her from having to have 
sex with EPSTEIN if she finds more girls for him. When 
watched 
MAXWELL recruit a french girl, she noticed that MAXWELL was very confident. 
MAXWELL would get them to do what EPSTEIN needed. 
Towards the end, MAXWELL was not as involved sexually. Her abuse started 
more earlier on. EVA DUBIN used to be the same as MAXWELL. 
originally thought she was 15 years old when she met MAXWELL but records 
reflect that she was 16 years old. MAXWELL picked 
up from 
and 
told her the truth 
that she was just learning how to massage. 
left 
to go to EPSTEIN's house. 
and MAXWELL 
massage EPSTEIN and they interview 
. It seemed like it was a 
legitimate interview and massage. They asked her how she was, where she 
went to school and asked about her family life. They snickered at 
underwear. They liked 
them the truth about everything including her age. They gave 
what 
she described as interested "Cheshire grins". Then EPSTEIN turned over and 
knew it was not legit. 
told them that she had been 
trafficked in the past. 
heart shaped K-mart panties. 
told 
recalled getting presents from MAXWELL and EPSTEIN on the island 
for one of her birthdays. It was possibly her 18th birthday. For 
19th birthday, EPSTEIN and MAXWELL bought 
tickets to go to
MAXWELL talked about meeting a prince (PRINCE ANDREW) and told 
make him happy. MAXWELL told 
to do the exact same things to him 
that she did for EPSTEIN because he is a good friend of MAXWELL's. 
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was one of the girls 
knew the most in the "family". 
did not like what she had to do. One time in France, 
gets a 
joint and she and 
go out to the roof to smoke it and chat about the 
job. EPSTEIN didn't approve of drugs. 
told 
that she hates 
what she does. 
was more of MAXWELL's pet and 
never saw her 
lent out to other people. 
met 
in Santa Monica, California, about three months after 
her training period. 
had already proven herself at this time. 
EPSTEIN told 
that they were going to meet one of his favorites. 
There were about eight girls there. EPSTEIN said that he bought her this 
small house on Santa Monica Beach. They go there with all of the girls. 
and EPSTEIN go into a room and 
and 
become 
intimate together. 
already knew exactly what to do and what EPSTEIN 
liked. 
on one occasion got in trouble for bringing cocaine to the 
island. EPSTEIN would say that other than MAXWELL, 
was the best for 
picking up girls. 
does not recall specifically seeing 
doing 
this but she does recall it happened. 
and 
didn't really get 
along. 
entire day was around MAXWELL and MAXWELL was always around 
EPSTEIN. 
thought 
was there prior to the year III. and left 
a few months prior to 
leaving but she was not sure. 
described 
as havin 
was well versed in life but 
towar s t e end s.e starte 
oo ing worn and tired. 
was part of the 
"family" but not as much and was not there all of the time. Other than the 
first sexual experience with 
and EPSTEIN there were too many other 
instances to count. 
Some of the house staff included the following: 
-JUAN and MARY ALESSI (Palm Beach) 
-"The COWBOY" (Zorro ranch) 
-CATHY and MILES (The island) 
-JO JO the driver/butler (New York) 
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(East coast). EPSTEIN stated she would get girls for him as 
was there more often than other girls. 
-SHERATON LNU was there more often than other girls. 
recalled being "lent out", as she used to call it, ten years 
ago. The first instance, or her first memory of being lent out was after 
she got an apartment in Florida. It was after MAXWELL bought her a cell 
phone. MAXWELL told 
ANDERSSON and GLEN DUBIN. 
what she did 
told 
she could go 
for EPSTEIN. 
to not touch 
into labor. 
to go to the "Breakers" to massage EVA 
MAXWELL told 
that she had to do to DUBIN 
ANDERSSON was to be a legit massage. MAXWELL 
ANDERSSON's ankles because she was pregnant and 
At one point, MAXWELL and EPSTEIN said they were going to test 
out and try her out with other people if she wanted to become a real massage 
therapist. They were training 
on how to give blow jobs during her 
training period. 
was taught very specifically how to do this. 
put a finger in men's butts to touch their prostate and make them 
ejaculate. 
was taught to stimulate the nipples. 
was lent out so many times that she started to use drugs. 
could not give a number as to how many times she was lent out but it was to 
men and women. Lots of men. More often, she saw the same person multiple 
times than just to one person one random time. It was different who would 
orchestrate the situation each time 
was lent out - sometimes 
EPSTEIN, sometimes MAXWELL. When they were in New York, they would call her 
on the 4th floor and have her come to the massage room at a particular time. 
was never paid by the 3rd party for the massage nor recalled a 
conversation she may have had with them about money. 
One time, a man who owned a hotel, tried to take 
EPSTEIN to work as a masseuse for him. 
away from 
At the time, 
did not know everyone's first and last names but she 
figured it out later. She knew "The Dubins" first and last names. 
knew ALAN DERSHOWITZ's first and last name. 
knew PRINCE ANDREW as 
PRINCE ANDREW. 
was asked if she was aware of any other girls that were lent out 
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like she was. 
stated that 
was a participant in sex acts with 
lots of third parties. 
was lent out. They were lent out 
together. 
was with 
when she was lent out. 
was 
lent out a few times. There were more girls, whose names that 
could 
not think of who were also lent out. 
came in towards the end of 
time with EPSTEIN. 
Due to the interest of time, not all subject matter was covered during 
the course of this interview. 
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