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Edwards, Bradley vs. Dershowitz 
Case No.: CACE 15-000072 
Revised Answers To Defendant Dershowitz's First Set Of Document Requests 
to Edwards and Cassell 
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As a New Yorker kom humble beginnings. Jeffrey Epstein played on his blue collar credentials and 
enormous wealth to extend tentacles of affluence throughout America's liberal political elite 
Dunng the outcry over the Epstein case, it emerged that another man with a notonous appetite for 
young women, Bill Clinton, travelled with Epstein to a number of destinations. including three limes 
on the billionaire's private aircraft 
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Epstein, who has donated more than £75.000 over the years to candidates from the Democratic 
Party, also flew with Mr Clinton in November 2003 to destinations including Russia, Oslo. Hong 
Kong, Shanghai and Beijing. 
Yet 
stresses that she was never' lent out' to Mr Clinton. 
On one occasion, the adds, Epstein did invite two young brunettes to a dinner 
gave on 
Caribbean island for Mr Canton shortly after he left office. But, as far as she knows, the ex-
President did not take the bait 
'I'd have been about 17 at the time.' she says. 'I flew to the Caribbean with Jeffrey and then 
Ghislaine Maxwell went to pick up Bill in a huge black helicopter that Jeffrey had bou•ht her. 
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excited because she got her licence around the first year we met 
'I used to get frightened flying with her but Bill had the Secret Service with him 
talking about what a good job she did. 
'I only ever met Bill twice but Jeffrey had told me that they were good friends 
1 asked, 'How come?' and he laughed and said, 'He owes me some favours." ay •e 
was just 
• tang but it constantly surprised me that people with as much to lose as Bill and [Prince] Andrew 
weren't more careful. 
'Bill must have known about Jeffre 's • iris. There were three desks in the livin• area of the villa on 
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They were covered with pictures of Jeffrey shaking hands with famous people and photos of naked 
girls. including one of me that Jeffrey had at all his houses. lying in a hammock. 
'We all dined tooether that night Jeffrey was at the head of the table. Bill was at his left I sat across 
from him. 
Ghislaine's blonde British assistant, sat at my right. 
'Ghislaine was at Bill's left and at the left of Ghislaine there were two olive-skinned bran 
flown in with us from New York. 
'I'd never met them before. I'd say they were no older than 17, very innocent-looking. 
'They weren't there for roe. They weren't there for Jeffrey or Ghislaine because I was thereo 
sex with Jeffrey on the tip. 
'Maybe Jeffrey thought they would entertain Bill, but I saw no evidence that he vras interested in 
them. He and Jeffrey and Ghislaine seemed to have a very good relationship. Bill was very funny. 
'He made me laugh a few times. And he and 
Jeffrey and Ghislaine told blokey jokes and the 
brunettes listened politely and giggled. 
'After dinner I gave Jeffrey an erotic massage. 
'Bill must have known about 
Jeffrey's girls. There were three 
desks in the living area of the 
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I assume Gtuslaine flew him back.' 
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rving his jail term, his visitors included a Ion 
tme - and highly controversial - Clinton 
cquaintance. Arnold Prosperi. 
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nuary 
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prison after being convicted of tax fraud. Mr Clinton commuted his sentence to house arrest. 
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Last summer, the Gores abruptly announced that they were ending their supposedly faityla e 
marriage and, just weeks later, it emerged that Mr Gore - the famously sanctimonious Global-
rming disciple - had been accused of trying to force sex on a woman with whom he had booked 
therapeutic massage at an Oregon hotel. 
1 had no clue that anything was up,' Virginia says. 'The Gores seemed I ke a beautiful couple whe 
I met them. All I knew was that Mr Gore was a friend of Jeffrey's and Ghislaine's. Jeffrey didn't ask 
me to give him a massage. 
'There night have been a couple of other girls there on that trip but I could never have imagined 
is guy would do anything wrong. I was planning to vote for him when I timed 18. I thoight he wa 
wesome.' 
rrginia said that yet another American liberal icon. President Obama's Middle East peace envoy 
Senator George Mitchell, frequently visited Epstein's New York residence. 
Mr Mitchell. aged 77 - who previously led America's Northern Ireland peace initiative - Was very 
se to Jeffrey,' Virginia recalled. 'He is very clean-cut You wouldn't think of him being 
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other acquaintance was Israel defence secretary Ehud Barak. whose spokesman to • 
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n Sunday: 'Mr Barak did attend several small functions in Mr Epstein's home in New York that 
re usually attended by leading businessman, university presidents. Nobel Prize Laureates and 
prominent public figures.' 
Epstein's many Hollywood pals include Matt Groaning. creator of The Simpsons. 
'Jeffrey once had me give Matt a foot massage when he was flying on the jet with us, TIrglma says 
'He laughed and did drawings of Bart and Homer for my little brother and my dad 
'I also met Naomi Campbell at a birthday party of hers on a yacht in the South of France. She is a 
'end of Ghislaine's but she was a real bitch to me. 
She was very fake. She turned away from me when we were introduced by Ghislaine and Jeffre 
'Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey's. He didn't partake in sex with any of us but he 
irted with me. He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey. 'You've got the life.'" 
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U.S. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, frequently visited Epsteints New York residence, 
But he also took his defence very seriously indeed. Epstein engaged his friend. 
professor Alan Dershowitz — whose celebrity clients have included M ke Tyson, 
Barack Obama and 
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Hilarious adult tantrum 
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Bill Clinton and rbe
-masseuse' I met him mire. claims Epstein s pail l Daily Mail Online 
von I3ulow and O 4 Simpson - to run his legal detente 
lie also employed a firm of private investigators to nvestigate the backgrounds of the girls.
Detectives painstakingly built a case which they believed showed that Epstein systematically paid 
teenage girls to recruit other teenage gills to his sex nng.
However, as the investigation continued, they found mat I pstein's team had already spoken to key 
witnesses, suggesting that the financier would reward those who helped him 
In addition, Epstein's defence team agreed to the unusual move of suggesting that the alleged 
victims sue Epstein in the col courts The result was a plea bargain in which Epstein admitted a 
single charge ol soliciting an underage girl tog prostitution - a deal which infuriated many police 
officers who worked on the case 
More than 20 of Epstein's girls are said to have sued him for damages At least 17 have settled out 
of court 
Mr Clinton. Mr Gore and Mr Mitchell were all contacted about their friendship with Epstein but 
declined to Whitfield 
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JACK SCAROLA 
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DATE: 
Edwards adv. Epstein 
291874 
April 07, 2011 
JS: 
Jack Scarola and Brad Edwards 
BE: 
a 
V: 
Hi Jack! Hi Brad! How you guys doing? 
JS: 
We're doing fine, thank you. I'm sorry for all of the trouble and before we go any 
further, let me tell you, if I have your permission, I have started a tape recorder and I 
want to be able to tape this conversation from the very beginning. Is that alright with 
you? 
V: 
Sure, that's fine, Jack. No problem 
JS: 
Ok, good, thank you. I appreciate that. Let me start off by introducing myself. I know 
that Brad has spoken to you about me but I am Brad's lawyer, and I assume that you can 
confirm that you and I have never had any communication before. Is that right? 
V: 
That's correct. 
JS: 
Alright. I have, however, gotten some information from Brad about conversations that 
you have had with him, and that will enable me, hopefully, to make this a little bit more 
efficient and take up a minimum amount of your time while still getting the information 
that we think is going to be helpful to us and to any jury that might ultimately have to 
hear these facts. 
So, let me begin by asking you first to tell us what your full name is. 
I a
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V: 
That's my maiden name. My married name i 
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Telephone interview with 
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JS: 
Could you spell your last name for us? That is your married last name: 
V: 
JS: 
Alright, thank you, and where are you living right now? 
V: 
I live in Australia. 
JS: 
And how long have you resided in Australia. 
V: 
This is my 19th year. 
JS: 
That is where you are right now, correct? We've reached you in Australia for this phone 
conversation? 
V: 
That is correct, yes. 
JS: 
And what time is it in Australia right now? 
V: 
I think it's about 9:00 now. 
JS: 
Ok. That's 9am, correct? 
V: 
That's correct. 
JS: 
Alright. 
the reason for this conversation is because it is our understanding that 
you know a man by the name Jeffrey Epstein, and I want to begin by asking you please to 
tell us about the circumstances of your first meeting Mr. Epstein. 
V: 
Ok. I was introduced to Mr. Epstein by Ghislaine Maxwell. I was working at Donald 
Trump's spa in Mar-a-Lago and I was prompted by Ghislaine to come to Jeffrey's 
mansion in Palm Beach that afternoon after work to make some extra money and to learn 
about massage. She met me at the spa, and I was reading a book about anatomy, so I was 
already interested in massage therapy as it was and not having any of the education or 
you know anything behind me, I thought this was a great opportunity to work for her and 
go. So, I went to Jeffrey's mansion about 5 or 6 in the afternoon. My dad drove me 
there. My dad worked at Mar-a-Lago with me, and he met Ghislaine and she seemed like 
a nice, proper English lady, and she knows, I mean, you know, one time then once 
before I left to travel overseas, she just seemed really nice and like she would like to help 
me out. So my dad left, and I had no problem getting home that night, one of her drivers 
would take me back after my trial. So she led me upstairs, and into Jeffrey's bedroom, 
and past that is Jeffrey's massage room, which has got his steam room and a shower and 
a massage table, and there is actually an extra room that has, that nobody knows about it, 
it's kinda like a secret room and it's got a whole bunch of decorative pictures of 
pornographic literature and sex toys and I can 
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what happened in there. 
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Telephone interview with 
Page 3 of 23 
IS: 
When you say that the room was hidden, 
how was the mom concealed? 
V: 
It wasn't like a door that you would normally go into, like some kind of special opening, 
you open that and then a little door, so it looks like it's a little closet so-to-speak, but 
when you walk in there, it's obviously a lot bigger than just a closet. It wasn't too big, 
but it was bigger, you know. It wasn't a gigantic room, it was just like a small room, 
which you know, it probably could fit some shoes in there, _it had racks of shoes, boxes, 
some sweatshirts neatly folded, and the ceiling to the floor was covered in pornographic 
pictures of the girls that he had met. 
JS: 
When you say... 
V: 
So anyways, that was getting there, and I was introduced to Jeffrey, he was laying naked 
on top of the massage table, and obviously for one, I'm a 15 year old girl and seeing him 
on the table was weird but, also learning about anatomy and massage, I thought this 
would be part of it. So obviously, I thought it was part of the massage program, so I said 
ok, this is fine. And, he then instructed me on how to touch the body, Jeffrey's body, 
how to massage him, and for the first hour, it was actually a real massage, maybe not an 
hour, maybe like 40 minutes or something, but of something like that _and that's when he 
turned over on the other side and to expose himself fully. So then Ghislaine told me that 
she wanted me to undress and began to take off my shirt and skirt, my white uniform 
from Mar-A-Lago, she also took off her shirt and got undressed, and so I was there with 
just my undies on, and she was completely bare, and made some kind of little flake about 
the underwear that I was wearing because it wasn't my normal sexy girl underwear and 
just like, I don't know, had red hearts on it or something like that just your normal, you 
know, real cute underwear. Anyways, so during all of this I'm kind of like what's going 
on, how do I act, what do I say, I was so afraid of: not afraid or fearful for my life but 
_unsure of how all this started and wanting to obtain a profession_ I was so afraid 
thinking about upsetting and disappointing them, I don't know, it's a weird situation by 
far and I was expected to _Lick his nipples, instructed on how to do so by J.E_ and give 
him oral sex while he wanted to fondle me, and then at the end, I was told by Ghislaine to 
get on top and straddle Jeffrey sexually, and when we were done, we went and had a 
shower in the room and Jeffrey told me to wash him up and down, you know with a bar 
of soap and make sure he was all cleaned up. And then he took me downstairs and took 
me to two of the guards and told John to bring me home. John was the butler at the time. 
JS: 
Let me interrupt you for just a moment there if I could, 
You mentioned as you 
were recounting those details that you were 15 years old at the time. What is your date of 
birth? 
V: 
JS: 
And can you tell us please, as best you're able to estimate it, what the date was when this 
first encounter occurred? 
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V: 
I've got it written down. It's like - I'm not good with math — hold on — I thought 1 wrote 
it down but I didn't. I'm not too sure, I think it was 1998 off the top of my head and 
around June of 1998, I would say as I was turning 16 at the end of the summer. 
JS: 
Alright. You talked about the room where Jeffrey had the pornographic photographs. 
Did you actually see that room on the occasion of your first visit there? 
V: 
No, I got to see that room a few visits after but I was just frying to describe that room to 
you guys so you knew exactly what room I was talking about. 
JS: 
Another question for you, and I don't mean to be plying into your personal life, and if I 
ask you any questions at all that you're uncomfortable answering, then you just tell me 
that and we'll move on, because I appreciate your cooperation and the last I thing I want 
to do is impose upon that cooperation, but can you tell us please just generally what kind 
of sexual experience you had had prior to this confrontation with Jeffrey? 
V: 
Yeah, sure. A close family friend has sexually abused me, and I was on the streets at 13 
years old. I was picked up by a 67 year old man named Ron _Eppinger_ who did exactly 
what Jeffrey did with me abuse and violate my youthfulness _ & I was with him for 6 
months. So, he was gone and then I had this boyfriend who was like my school friend 
from young days but we just kept in contact with each other and we were on and off 
constantly, and that was Tony Figeroua, and there was also another younger guy was 
near my age, Michael, I can't remember his last name, but yeah, there, I mean, there 
wasn't like a string of men or anything, but there was Ron, like I told you, and he was the 
first guy expecting me to do so-called disgusting affairs. Jeffrey actually knew Ron, 
which was quite weird when I told Jeffrey the story about Ron, and Jeffrey had actually 
met him, and yeah. Anyway, just another story, and yeah, there were a couple of men, 
but that gives you an idea. 
JS: 
Now when you described the photographs in the room as pornographic, tell me just a 
little bit about the photographs, if you would please? First, how many of them were 
there? 
V: 
At least 100, and like I said, they covered the room from the ceiling, not the ceiling but 
from the top of the edge of the wall to the bottom of the floor. I want to say at least a 
hundred, even more, there could have been more in the boxes _Some of them were A4_ 
photographs, like the large size, some of naked women posing, you know, positions, sexy 
positions. 
Others were, you know, some girls had bikinis on, and it wasn't so 
pornographic, but it was all women, and it was all in a sexual nature. 
JS: 
Were there photographs where more than one person appeared? 
V: 
Oh yeah, plenty of them. There were lots of naked photographs, I mean I was just trying 
to give you a visual range. There was anything from 5x6s to 4x8s to 8x4s. Some of them 
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bad frames, some of them were out of frames, but they were all, like I said, they were all 
women, they were all sexual in nature. 
JS: 
Was it your impression that there were a hundred photos of a hundred different people or 
were there multiple photos of the same woman or girl? 
V: 
There was definitely a lot of different girls. I mean it wasn't easy to sit there and say, 
you weren't finding 5 girls out of some photos, no. Were there a hundred different ones? 
There could have been pictures of some girls, I really couldn't get close necessarily to 
actually recognize faces or anything like that. But if you, you know, the range of them 
were all different, majority of them were different, yeah. 
JS: 
Did there ever come a point in time when you became aware that a photograph of you 
had been added to the collection? 
V: 
Yes, there was. Ghislaine took several nude photographs of me for Jeffrey. So, yeah, 
there were pictures of me and there were pictures, he wasn't shy, that wasn't the only 
place in his house that he kept the photos. He liked photos all over his house. If you 
looked in his den or on his desk or in on the hall table, a giant hall table in his house, 
there were at least a hundred photos of girls in frames. Not all of them were naked, a lot 
of the ones that were all around his house were not naked girls posing pornographically, 
some were pictures of celebrities and politicians he had known_or things like that or had 
pants on or whatever, but yeah, there was a lot of mixed photographs in the outside ones. 
JS: 
Were there any photographs of girls or young women that you knew or that you 
subsequently came to know that you saw in the house? 
V: 
Yeah, eah, there was. There was pictures of 
pictures 
ictures Spictures 
of me, pictures of the regulars, but a lot of the 
gut s, some 
es Jeffrey could have like 7 girls a day, and he would only see those girls 
once if he got bored. I don't know. These weren't my days. I heard he's gotten a lot 
sloppier since I left. So, I don't know anyways, but when I knew him, there was just a, it 
seemed, there was such an influx of girls coming in and out, so did I recognize a lot of 
them? Maybe, maybe not, but then they were all definitely beautiful, they were all 
ranging in age, some of them young, some of them older in their 20's, I mean it was just 
they were all beautiful. 
JS: 
You've told us about the first visit. Was there any discussion on the occasion of that first 
visit about your returning? 
V: 
Yes, they were very pleased with me and after the encounter was finished, the sexual 
encounter, be went and told me I did well and I have a lot of potential to become a 
massage therapist and if Pd like I could return tomorrow, you know, and do the same 
thing and get paid $200/hr, so Jeffrey insisted that I come after work, and over the next 
few days, I guess the relationship grew into more, and within a couple of weeks, not even 
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a couple of weeks, maybe a week, I had quit Mar-a-Lago and I was working for Jeffrey 
full time. 
JS: 
Ok, let's talk about your job at Mar-a-Lago, if we could. You said that your Dad was 
working there. What was his position at Mar-a-Lago? 
V: 
He was a maintenance supervisor I think is what it was called? He like managed the 
tennis courts and air conditioners and things like that. 
JS: 
What is your Dad's full name? 
V: 
IS: 
And is he still living here in South Florida now? 
V: 
No, he's not, he's in California. 
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IS: 
Ok. Is your Dad aware of what is currently going on with regard to your having made 
public statements about your relationship with Jeffrey? 
V: 
Yes, he is well aware of it. I told my family even before all this stuff came out, because 
they were the first ones contacted by the journalists from Mail on Sunday. I know that 
they the Mail on Sunday printed that I had gone out and tried to, I mean I think one of the 
photos said that I was angry that I saw Jeffrey and the Prince walking together and that is 
why I came out and went public with everything. Not true. I mean, I am angry about 
how they are still up to their old ways together and that they're still hanging out but I 
didn't contact the Mail on Sunday and I didn't bring it out. I figured that everyone was 
going to bring it out anyway and I better bring it out the right way. He's known 
everything from the start, and my family is very supportive with everything going on. 
JS: 
I'm kind of going to jump around a little bit and I apologize for that, but since the subject 
has come up, tell me first of all why you are providing this cooperation to us, and I ant 
certainly very appreciative of it, but I want you to tell us why it is you've chosen to spend 
time with us on the telephone and provide this information that you're now providing. 
V: 
I'm out to help the bigger picture, you know, I think all of us can make a big difference in 
a lot of other people's lives and I think that this has gone on long enough and it's a big 
slap in my face that he can get away with hurting me so bad let alone so many other girls 
and laugh about it. I guess I talked to you guys out because I want to see the right thing 
happen, not just to him, but I want people in the world to understand this is not the way 
of life, you know, it's not acceptable to go out procure young girls and make them think 
that, this is the way you should be living and that's all. Yeah, I guess my reason for 
doing it is to help the bigger picture, you know, I'm a big believer in karma and I believe 
that good things will come back to you, so I guess that's why I'm doing this. 
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JS: 
Just for the record, neither Brad, nor I, nor anyone representing that they have anything to 
do with us has made any promises to you. Is that correct? 
V: 
That is correct. I'll tell you, since this is our first conversation, that nobody has made me 
feel like I've been bribed or bought or had to say anything. I've told you anything that I 
know from my own self, not some things somebody told me. If anything, Brad's been 
extra careful not to tell me anything and let me do all the talking, so it's quite opposite I 
think. 
JS: 
Alright. Let's get back then to the story of your relationship with Jeffrey, and we've 
talked about your first encounter with him and how it evolved from that into your full 
time employment with Jeffrey, but what were you doing at Mar-a-Lago before you quit 
Mar-a-Lago? 
V: 
I was just a locker room attendant and sometimes I did babysitting for the rich and 
famous. So, I wasn't anything big. I worked in the spa area. That's why I was studying 
anatomy, because I was really really interested in becoming a _massage therapist, and at 
the locker room, I didn't do much. I mean I was making tea for a living, I would, you 
know, make sure the toilet paper had a little triangle in it after everybody went to the 
toilet, or wipe down the water from the basin, you know, it was a very easy peasy job. 
JS: 
Did you get that job through your Dad? 
V: 
Yes, my Dad got me the job. 
JS: 
Ok, and you were only 15 years old at the time, were they aware of how old you were at 
Mar-a-Lago? 
V: 
Of course, definitely. We had to go through extensive, you know, we even had to get 
drug tested and id test and so on and so forth. I mean, Mantas (?) is very strict on 
employment, yeah, everybody knew. 
JS: 
Ok. Was there ever any conversation with Ghislaine about how old you were before you 
were taken to Jeffrey's mansion? 
V: 
No. She didn't ask me how old I was from the start, but when I did get to Jeffrey's 
mansion, it was discussed how old I was. 
JS: 
With whom? 
V: 
During the entire hour of what I call the legitimate massage I was giving him, it was cat 
and mouse games getting information from me to find out who I am, am I a willing 
participant in these kind of things, and how would I react if they were about to take the 
next step. But they got information off of me, they got my age, they got my, a little bit of 
my history so they knew I was, you know, not very stable at home, and they knew that, 
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you know, I was actually interested in making my life better by studying so what they 
were offering me was a chance to become a legitimate masseuse but it was getting 
trained. They would have people show me how to work the body and be called a 
massage therapist and get me books on it, and you know, keep me interested, and every 
time, you know, I was with Jeffrey, literally was about massages, I don't mean just going 
in and have sex with him. I mean massage, because it would always start out with 
mac ge and then it would lead into sometimes other things. 
JS: 
Alright, once this evolved into hill time employment, what did full time employment 
mean? 
V: 
That was entirely having to travel with Jeffrey in every city. When he was in Palm 
Beach, I stayed at my apartment, and he would call me to his house once or twice a day 
sometimes, and that's, you know, do things with him. Sometimes we'd go out shopping, 
sometimes we'd go out and watch a movie. You know, simple things like that, go to an 
expo or a fair, whatever it was. But when we were in other cities, I was at my 
apartment_, I lived with him full time. What I mean by full time is even in the middle of 
the night, I could get a ring on my phone next to me and tell me to come in his room, you 
know, so it was literally full time. 
JS: 
When you say that when you were in Palm Beach you were living in your apartment, 
were you living on your own or were you living with members of your family at that 
time? 
V: 
No, after I quit Mar-a-Lago, Jeffrey offered to get me an apartment in Palm Beach 
somewhere, Royal Palm Beach, and it was a nice apartment. He finished it for me, it 
was absolutely beautiful, but yeah, that's the only time I would spend time away from 
him really. 
JS: 
This apartment was on Royal Palm Beach Boulevard or out in the Village of Royal Palm 
Beach? 
V: 
I so honestly don't remember. I've been trying to rack my brain because the FBI was 
asking the same thing and were trying to find it, but yeah, I'm Not sur_. I didn't get to 
spend as much time in it, I was only there about an entire week out of every month 
probably, but the majority of the time I was with Jeffrey anyways. It was somewhere in 
Royal Palm Beach. I don't know about Royal Palm Beach drive. I don't even remember 
the Royal Palm Beach drive anymore so I'm not too sure. 
JS: 
Ok, let me see if I can draw the distinction for you and maybe that will help you to help 
us? Royal Palm Beach is a village that is... 
V: 
No, no, no, I got Royal Palm Beach, I just didn't know the Royal Palm Beach Drive, like 
what street it's off of. Were you talking about a street? 
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JS: 
Yes, I was talking about a street. Royal Palm Drive is on the island of Palm Beach, and 
it's a street that is lined with large royal palm trees, and I'm wondering if this was an 
apartment on the island or was this an apartment out west of town... 
V: 
No, it was actually in Royal Palm Beach, not on the island. 
JS: 
Alright. 
V: 
I would be driven, it was closer to my family than it was closer to him. I wanted to be 
close enough to everybody else so that when I was in town, I could just go see them 
quickly. 
Ok. So we're not talking about Royal Palm Boulevard. We're talking about the town of 
Royal Palm west of town. Jeffrey got you an apartment out there. 
V: 
That's correct. 
JS: 
When he was in Palm Beach, you were generally not staying at the mansion, you were 
staying at the apartment that he got for you out west of town. 
V: 
That's correct. 
JS: 
Ok. 
V: 
I mean then there was times, I don't wanna say that every time I stayed at my apartment. 
There was times we'd fly back from some city maybe too late at night to really want to 
go back home, so you know, it's like 12:00 at night or 1:00 in the morning. I was just 
staying in the yellow room, or something like that; one of the guest rooms in Palm Beach. 
But majority of the time, I would definitely want to get back to my own apartment. 
JS: 
Alright. What were the general hours of your full time employment when ...? 
V: 
There was not set hours. It wasn't like logging, and you know, hitting the shift button, 
nothing like that. The way I would get paid would be, ok, if I was in Palm Beach, I 
would get $200 an hour to massage Jeffrey or some of his friends and then go home. So 
it would be like that. If I was traveling with him, it would be per massage, so I would be 
getting paid per day. So I wouldn't be getting paid on an hourly rate. He wouldn't say 
ok, today you're going to work for me from 7:00 in the morning until 8:00 at night It 
never like that. I was on call all the time. 
JS: 
When you were here in Palm Beach, were you actually getting paid only for the time 
spent massaging Jeffrey or were you getting paid from your arrival at his house until you 
left the house? 
V: 
From the time the massage started. 
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