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O Did you ever talk to any law enforcement type 
related to the Jeffrey Epstein criminal investigation? 
A No, sir. 
O Did you remain employed from November 2004 
through today continuously with Jeffrey Epstein? 
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Yes, sir. 
O Was it discussed as to how your employment 
would be altered, if at all, while Mr. Epstein was going 
to be either -- while Mr. Epstein was going to be in 
tall or away from the house? 
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No, sir. 
O Did you know, did you have any prior warning 
before Mr. Epstein pled guilty and went to jail? 
A No, sir. 
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All right. So it was just one day he's there 
and the next day he's not, as far as you knew? 
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Janusz, we discuss it with Janusz, he received 
a call, and then oh. Mr. Epstein is coming so is how I 
know. 
O I'm sorry. Maybe we miscommunicated there. 
You're saying that Janusz received a call that 
Mr. Epstein was coming to the house? 
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Your first question was? 
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Were you made aware of the date or time period 
that Mr. Epstein would be going to court to plead guilty 
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Where? 
In jail. 
How do you know that? 
Through Janusz or, what's this, through the 
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So you did you work at his house during the 
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Yes. 
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when Mr. Epstein was in jail' 
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Did you see Mr. Epstein during that year time 
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period? 
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What was your schedule during that year time 
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period that Mr. Epstein was in jail? 
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Flexible. No. Wait. The time that he was in 
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jail? 
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Right. June 30th, 2008 through sometime in 
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to crimes and then going to jail so that he would no 
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longer be at the house, were you made aware that that 
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was going to take place? 
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Not directly. 
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No. Janusz and I talked, so... 
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no longer at the house? 
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We really don't know when he's going there to 
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jail or Is going to court. It's just a discussion like 
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oh, he's going to court or something, but the date and 
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the time, no. 
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there was going to be a time period he was going to be 
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in jail? 
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All right. There was a period ol time that 
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was just over a year where Mr. Epstein was not in the 
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house, that being from June 30th. 2008 through sometime 
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in July of 2009; correct? 
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A Yes. 
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Q And do you know where he was during that time? 
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THE WITNESS: I usually come nine o'clock. 
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And who else would be in the house during that 
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passed away. 
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The gardener. 
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Jerome? 
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Jerome. 
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Yes. 
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A I remember right we came from New York, I 
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not burial, the ceremony in 
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During that year time period that Mr. Epstein 
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I dean the house, I made inventory of the 
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linens, and what's this, staled inventorying, making an 
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inventory of the silverwares. 
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Okay. Did you talk to 
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went to visit him in jail numerous 
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times; are you aware of that? 
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THE WITNESS: No, sir. 
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And did 
stay in the house during 
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the time period where Mr. Epstein was In jail? 
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Yes. 
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Permanently, or did she fly in town and fly 
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back somewhere else? 
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(Nodding head.) 
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Was it somebody from New York? 
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When he was in jail. 
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Story. 
O It was Story? 
A It was Story. 
O This is Story Cowles? Do you know the last 
name? 
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I don't know his last name. 
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And when you say she came with a person, you 
mean she came to the house with a person named Story? 
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Yes. 
O And do you know if that person named Story 
flew in with 
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I don't know. 
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A No, sir. 
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AM right. So this is during the day he came 
over. Story came over and visited with 
A Visited? I think so. 
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or Story as you referred to him, meeting with 
at the house during the year time period 
when Mr. Epstein was in jail? 
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Alone. I don't know, because she just come to 
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she came with. 
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: Again, we're talking during the 
time period when Mr. Epstein is in Jail? 
THE WITNESS: Yes. 
MR.-: 
Thank you. 
THE WITNESS: So one time she came with male 
friend. 
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Yes. 
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I forgot it. 
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Was it [ger? 
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No. 
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anything? 
A Do the computer. 
O All right. How many computers were there In 
the house during the year time period Mr. Epstein was in 
jail? 
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They have their own personal computers. 
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Who is 'they'? 
A If you're asking about 
and Story? 
O Right. They brought laptops with them, you're 
saying? 
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Yes. 
O Okay. For the period of time between 
November 2004 through June of 2008, when — sorry. 
Were you working at the house when the police 
executed a search warrant on the house? 
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No. 
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You wore not working at the house? 
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I wasn't. 
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When I came back to report, that's how I 
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So are we talking about the day the police 
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morning, but you went after lunch and the police had 
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already left? 
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Douglas. 
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with Janusz only. 
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What did he say? 
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Normally you would report to the house between 
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Yes, sir. 
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house, she had to have called you before eight or 
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nine o'clock, right? 
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Okay. So approximately what time does 
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Ms. Maxwell call you to tell you you can report to the 
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house later on that day? 
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Okay. What time did you actually report to 
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After lunch, about -- maybe after lunch. 
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Aside from pictures, what else did the police 
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take, as Janusz told you? 
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house and taking pictures, do you remember seeing 
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pictures around Mr. Epstein's house? 
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Yes. 
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Do you remember seeing pictures of naked or 
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nude females around Mr. Epstein's house? 
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In Mr. Epstein's closet you would see --
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describe what you would see related to females in 
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pictures. 
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Some have topless. 
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Is this a big closet? 
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A No. Not really big, its just this big, not 
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so big. 
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Okay. Were these pictures that could be seen 
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MR. CRITTON: Form. 
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And what was that picture of? 
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It's like advertisement, small child. 
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maybe four doing? 
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this, but I think the underwear was (indicating), like 
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pulled down. 
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pointing to her rear-end, derriere. 
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of the child in the photograph, but you're unable to 
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hardly, like, tell the age. It was just maybe four, 
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because... 
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Okay. Was there anything else in the house 
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that you were told was taken by the police? 
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Prior to the day when the police came to the 
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house, how many computers did Mr. Epstein have in his 
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house? 
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THE WITNESS: One -- three. 
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the little office. 
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remember seeing those computers any more? 
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bedroom. 
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hallway and it was of a child roughly lour years old 
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that was puling down her underwear and exposing her 
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buttock area: is that fairly accurate? 
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A Yes. Not really lull, just like slightly. 
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that's what I remember. 
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Okay. Are there any other photographs that 
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were confiscated by the police, to your knowledge? 
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So how many photographs had you seen prior to 
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the police going into Mr. Epstein's house in 
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Mr. Epstein's closet? 
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THE WITNESS: Less than ten. 
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A Yes. 
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And what were those photographs of, these less 
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of Mr. Epstein's house by Mr. Epstein or somebody 
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associated with Mr. Epstein. or by the police? 
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took less than ten photographs from Mr. Epstein's house, 
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and that should be all of the evidence or objects that 
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were taken by the police from Mr. Epstein's house, to 
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your knowledge? 
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as -- I just want to know a list of all the things that 
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to me I believe one photograph of this four-year-old 
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previously in Mr. Epstein's closet. 
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6:00 a.m.? 
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And why the schedule change? 
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Every morning now you serve breakfast to 
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and back at the house, what other people have frequently 
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visited and/or stayed at house? 
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Story. 
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since he's been out of jail? 
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Where? In the master bedroom. 
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correct? 
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she was at the house with Mr. Epstein? 
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girlfriend. 
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Ghislaine Maxwell, when she hired you or 
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interviewed you, told you that she, Ghislaine, was 
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Mr. Epstein's girtfriend, right? 
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A 2006. No. Wait. When he was in jail. 
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between June 2008 and July of 2009 is the first time 
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that you began to believe that 
was a girlfriend of 
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Mr. Epstein? 
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Yes. That's just my own, but she did not tell 
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do?
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What did she do? 
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do around the house prior to 
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Mr. Epstein going to jail? 
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A Go shopping. 
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That's what I know only. 
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lesbian sex slave for Jeffrey Epstein? 
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No. 
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indicated that the frequent visitors are M, 
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and Story; right? 
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A Yes, sir. 
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A No. 
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A Often. Like they come in the morning, they 
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stay a few hours, then leave. 
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and Story. 
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A Not always. 
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is staying at Mr. Epstein's house now? 
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house, if anything? 
A Alfredo told me that Adriana is a personal 
8 
assistant. 
9 
O Similar to 
10 
A 
Yes. 
11 
O Was there anything that you observed that 
12 
would distinguish 
from Adriana in terms of 
13 
the role that they played in Mr. Epstein's life? 
14 
A Not really. 
15 
O Is that somebody who you believe scheduled 
16 
Mr. Epstein for massages with the females, Adriana? 
17 
A I don't know. 
18 
O And were you ever told that by anybody that 
19 
was also involved in sex acts with minor females 
20 
at Mr. Epstein's house? 
21 
A No. 
22 
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O Am I the first person that has said that in 
25 
your presence? 
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O Do you know where she is staying? 
2 
A 
Not now. no. 
3 
O Do you know If she's staying with Story? 
4 
A I don't know. 
5 
O Do you know if Story is 
boyfriend? 
6 
A 
Yes. 
7 
O And Is that the relationship between Story and 
8 
M. 
they're boyfriend and girlfriend, as you 
9 
understand it? 
10 
A 
Yes. 
11 
O And do you know how it is that they met? 
12 
A I don't know. 
13 
O Do you know how long they've been boyfriend 
14 
and girlfriend? 
15 
A 
No. 
16 
O Do you know, have you witnessed Story talking 
17 
with Mr. Epstein at Mr. Epstein's house? 
18 
A Yes. 
19 
O And where do those conversations take place? 
20 
A In the breakfast room. 
21 
O And when those conversations are taking place 
22 
in the breakfast room between Story and Mr. Epstein, is 
23 
also there? 
24 
A There are times when she's there, there is 
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All right. So there are times that Story 
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and ills just two of them? 
1 
2 
3 
99 
mean do you know if she flies in from New York or flies 
in from LA. or where she fives down the street In 
Palm Beach? 
4 
A 
Yes. 
4 
A No. She said she comes from New York. 
5 
0 
All tight. And there are times when Story 
5 
0 
What does she do when she's in Palm Beach? 
6 
talks 
Mr. Epstein in the breakfast 
6 
A Go to the beach. 
with 
room and 
7 
is also there? 
7 
O Did you know her prior to -- had you seen her 
A Yes. 
a 
prior to Mr. Epstein going to jail? 
9 
0 
Are there times when 
is also involved in 
9 
A No, sir. 
to 
conversations where Story and Mr. Epstein are talking 
10 
0 
Other than 
are there any other 
11 
with one another in the breakfast room? 
11 
visitors that you have witnessed or observed? 
12 
A 
Yes. 
12 
A Sultan. 
13 
0 
Are there times when all four of them, that 
13 
0 
Who is that? 
14 
meaning 
Story. and Mr. Epstein, are all 
14 
A Sultan. 
15 
conversing together in the breakfast room? 
15 
O S-U-L-T-A-N? 
16 
A Yes. 
16 
A 
Yes. 
17 
0 
Have you overheard the conversations? 
17 
O Is that a female? 
18 
A No. 
18 
A A male. 
19 
0 
Do you know or have you been made aware of 
19 
0 
Do you know what Sultan does? 
20 
them talking about the allegations concerning 
20 
A 
No, sir. 
21 
Mr. Epstein and female masseuses? 
21 
O Do you know why he's ever at the house? 
22 
A No, sir. 
22 
A No. 
23 
0 
Since Mr. Epstein has been out of jail in July 
23 
O How often is Sultan there? 
24 
of 2009. have you seen any females coming over to give 
24 
A I saw him two times. 
25 
Mr. Epstein a massage? 
25 
Q And is that somebody that you saw pnor to 
98 
100 
1 
A No. sir. 
1 
Mr. Epstein going to jail? 
2 
0 
Do you know why that is? 
2 
A No, sir. 
3 
A I don't know, sir. 
3 
0 
So the first time you saw him was sometime 
4 
0 
Does M, 
have you seen 
keeping a 
4 
after Mr. Epstein got out of jail? 
5 
schedule of females or masseuses? 
A Yes, sir. 
6 
A No, sir. 
6 
0 
Any other visitors that you've seen since 
7 
0 
Since July of 2009. has Jeffrey Epstein spent 
7 
Mr. Epstein's been out of jail in July? 
8 
every night at the Palm Beach house, to your knowledge? 
8 
A M. 
9 
MR. CRITTON: Form, predicate. 
9 
0 
And who is-? 
10 
THE WITNESS: I leave at 3:30, so... 
10 
A 
She's also a friend. 
11 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
11 
0 
A friend of whom? 
12 
0 When you arrive every morning at 6:00 a.m., 
12 
A 
Mr. Epstein. 
13 
has Mr. Epstein been there every day? 
13 
0 
And where does she come from? 
14 
A 
Yes, sir. 
14 
A I did not ask her, I did not know. 
15 
Q Aside from M, M, 
and Story, have there 
15 
0 
All right. Is It somebody that a driver has 
16 
been any other visitors that are regular visitors of 
16 
to go pick up from the airport, or she flew from 
17 
Mr. Epstein since he's been out of jail? 
17 
somewhere? 
18 
A Some female friends. 
18 
A 
Yes. Janusz. 
19 
0 
Who would those people be? 
19 
0 
Janusz picks these people up from the airport? 
20 
A Difficult names. M. 
20 
A 
Yes, sir. 
21 
0 
who? 
21 
MR. CRITTON: Form. 
22 
A I don't know their... 
22 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
23 
0 
Do you know where she comes from? 
23 
0 
And when I say "these people,' I'm talking 
24 
A No. 
24 
about M, 
Sultan, and 
all are driven by 
25 
0 
And I don't mean her country of origin. I 
25 
Janusz to the house? 
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MR. CRITTON: Form. 
1 
103 
massage from any of these females? 
2 
THE WITNESS: I did not see Janusz drive, but 
2 
MR. CRITTON: Form. 
3 
what's this. 
3 
THE WITNESS: I do not know. 
4 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
4 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
5 
0 
But that's what you understand? 
5 
0 
I'm just going to ask you if you can identify 
6 
A Yes. 
6 
any of these people in this book. If you can. okay. if 
7 
MR. CRITTON: Form, speculation. 
7 
you cannot, it's line. 
8 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
8 
MR. CRITTON: I want to mark those, please. 
9 
0 My other visitors? 
9 
MR. EDWARDS: Well. if she can Identify them 
to 
A That's all I can remember. 
10 
I'll mark them. 
11 
0 
Do you know how old 
is? 
11 
MR. CRITTON: No, no. I want thorn identified. 
12 
A She, veliars this. 
12 
because it she can't identify them that's 
13 
0 
Excuse me? 
13 
significant to me as well. So can we mark those as 
14 
A I don't know her age, but she looks like, 
14 
a composite? 
15 
what's this. 
15 
MR. EDWARDS: I can mark them as a composite. 
16 
0 
Did you say -what's this*? 
16 
and we can either copy them here as black and white 
17 
A What? 
17 
or whatever. 
18 
0 
I'm sorry. We're just I think 
18 
MR. CRITTON: That's line. 
19 
miscommunicating here. 
19 
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 1 was marked for 
20 
A Okay. 
zo 
identification.) 
21 
O I was asking the age of the person that you've 
21 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
22 
described as M. 
22 
0 
Do you know who this Is, have you ever seen 
23 
A I did not ask her age. 
23 
her before? 
24 
Q How do you know the names of 
Sultan. 
24 
A No. 
25 
and MI? 
25 
MR. CRITTON: And we'll call this Exhibit 1-A. 
102 
104 
1 
A What's this? Janusz. 
1 
MR. EDWARDS: And then the next page will be 
2 
0 
Okay. Any other visitors aside from those 
2 
3 
three people that you have just listed, and the frequent 
MR. CRITTON: Yeah. 
4 
visitors: M. 
an 
4 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
A Mats all I can remember. 
5 
0 
What was your response? 
6 
0 
Has Ghislaine Maxwell come to visit since 
6 
A No. 
7 
Mr. Epstein's been out of jail? 
7 
Q Never seen her before? 
8 
A No, sir. 
8 
A No. 
9 
0 
Do you know if they frequentty talk with one 
MR. CRITTON: Can you tell us who they are? 
10 
another? 
10 
MR. EDWARDS: Can I tell you? 
11 
A I don't know, sir. 
1.1 
MR. CRITTON: Yes. 
12 
0 
Do you know what the relationship is or has 
12 
MR. EDWARDS: No. 
13 
been between Ghislaine Maxwell and Mr. Epstein? 
13 
MR. CRITTON: Okay. 
14 
A No. 
14 
MR. EDWARDS: She may be able to tell you. 
15 
MR. CRITTON: Form. 
15 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
16 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
16 
0 
Have you ever seen her before? 
17 
0 
In the five years or so that you've worked at 
17 
MR. CRITTON: That's 1-B. 
18 
Mr. Epstein's house, what other persons besides 
18 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
19 
Mr. Epstein have received massages from these females, 
19 
o 
This is 1•B. 
20 
from these female masseuses? 
20 
A No. 
21 
MR. CRITTON: Form. 
21 
0 
That's not somebody that you recognize as 
22 
THE WITNESS: I don't know. 
22 
anybody working on Mr. Epstein's staff, pointing at 
23 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
23 
picture 1-B? 
24 
0 
Do you know of any other visitors who have 
24 
A No. 
25 
frequented Mr. Epstein's house that have also received a 
25 
0 
Okay. 1-C, is that somebody that you 
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recognize 
A No. 
0 
-- as anybody who has ever been to 
Mr. Epstein's house in the past five years? 
A No. 
6 
0 
1-D, do you know who that is? 
A No. 
8 
0 
You don't remember seeing her come t0 
9 
Mr. Epstein's house? 
10 
A No. 
11 
0 
1-E, do you know who that is? 
12 
A No. 
13 
0 
In the live years that you worked there, you 
14 
never remember seeing her come to Mr. Epstein's house? 
15 
A No. 
16 
0 
Do you know who this is? 
17 
A I remember this. 
18 
0 
You remember her? 
19 
MR. CRITTON: Are you talking 1•F? 
20 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
21 
Cr Let's make sure we're right. 1-F. 
22 
A 
Yes. 
23 
0 
All right. When do you remember seeing her? 
24 
A I cannot remember the dates, you know, but I 
25 
remember seeing her. 
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1 
A I cannot remember. 
2 
MR. CRITTON: This is 1-I now? 
3 
MR. EDWARDS: This is H. 
4 
THE WITNESS: I cannot remember. 
s 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
6 
0 
By that I mean you've been able to tell me no. 
7 
no, no, no. no. When you say I don't remember, does 
8 
that mean maybe you have? 
9 
A Maybe, because the eyes. 
10 
0 
Okay. So that's somebody who may look 
11 
familiar to you but you don't know why? 
12 
A Yes. 
13 
0 
Okay. Is that somebody you remember seeing at 
14 
Mr. Epstein's house: I mean, is that where the 
15 
Familiarity comes from? 
16 
A Maybe. 
17 
0 
Okay. Do you recognize that person? 
18 
A That's= 
19 
0 
And that's the person that you've been 
20 
describing as- 
throughout this deposition? When 
21 
you've talked about = 
that's the person you're 
22 
talking about? 
23 
A 
Yes. 
24 
MR. 
What number are we on now? 
25 
MR. CRITTON: 'J." 
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1 
0 
Do you remember her name? 
2 
A No. 
3 
0 
Does the name 
refresh your recollection 
4 
as to who this person is? 
5 
A M? 
6 
0 
You remember a In& 
7 
A 
remember a name 
but I don't know if 
8 
that's =I. 
9 
0 
Okay. And where do you think that you saw 
10 
this person? 
13. 
A In the house. 
12 
0 
Do you know yaw she was there? 
13 
A No. 
14 
0 
Is that one of the people that was giving a 
Is 
massage, or is that somebody else? 
16 
A I do not know. I do not know. 
17 
MR. CRITTON: I'm sorry. 
18 
THE WITNESS: No. I do not see this. 
19 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
20 
0 
1-G, that's not somebody you remember seeing? 
21 
A No. 
22 
0 
1-H. do you remember seeing that person? 
23 
A No. 
24 
0 
This is a hard picture to decipher maybe. but 
25 
do you remember seeing that face? And that's 1-I. 
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1 
MR. MERMELSTEIN: 
2 
MR. EDWARDS: =Is 
'J.* 
3 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
4 
0 
Do you know who that is, have you ever seen 
5 
that person? 
6 
A 
Yes. 
7 
0 
Where have you seen him? 
8 
A In the house. 
9 
MR. CRITTON: This is "Ks now? 
10 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
11 
0 
This is 1-K. 
12 
What have you seen him doing in the house? 
13 
A He came with his family. 
14 
0 
Every time that he's been In the house he's 
15 
come with his family? 
16 
A No. no, no. He came with his family to spend 
17 
a week. 
18 
0 
Okay. And did his family come to the house as 
19 
well? 
20 
A 
Yes. They stay there. 
21 
0 
They stayed at the house? 
22 
A This Is Mr. Dershowitz? 
23 
0 
Right. And how many times have you seen 
24 
Mr. Dershowitz at the house in the time period that you 
25 
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A Two times. 
0 
And one of the times he was with his family? 
A 
Yes. 
0 
And the other time Is it safe to presume then 
that he was alone? 
2 
3 
4 
5 
111 
in the house? 
A I cannot remember. 
0 
Do you know if Mr. Dershowitz has ever been in 
the house when the females would come to the house to 
give Mr. Epstein a massage? 
6 
A 
Yes. 
6 
A I told you, I do not know. 
7 
0 
During the time that he was with his family. 
7 
0 
You don't remember that? 
8 
do you remember if Mr. Epstein received any massages 
8 
A I don't remember that. 
9 
from females? 
9 
O Okay. Do you know it Mr. Dershowitz has 
10 
A No. 
10 
received a massage while staying at Mr. Epstein's house? 
11 
0 
You don't remember, or he did not? 
11 
A No. 
12 
A Oh, he was there when Mr. Epstein was not in 
12 
0 
You don't know? 
13 
the house. 
13 
A I don't know. 
14 
0 
Mr. Dershowitz and his family were in the 
14 
0 
Do you know who that is? 
15 
house when Mr. Epstein was not in the house? 
15 
MR. CRITTON: Lot's get a letter now, or this 
16 
A Yes. They spend a week there. 
16 
is going to be a mess. 
17 
0 
And Mr. Epstein was not in South Florida, you 
17 
MR. EDWARDS: Not really. they're all in 
18 
mean, not in Palm Beach? 
la 
order. 
19 
A No. 
19 
MR. CRITTON: For the record, yoU're going how 
20 
MR. CRITTON: mars coned? 
20 
this 
is 
to know 
about 
person, and nobody 
going 
who 
21 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
21 
you're talking about. This is 'L' 
22 
0 
That's correct, my statement is correct? 
22 
MR. EDWARDS: Yeah. 
23 
A Correct. 
23 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
24 
MR. 
: So no, he was not in the house? 
24 
0 
Who is 1-L? 
25 
THE WITNESS: He was not in the house. 
25 
A 1-L? 
110 
112 
1 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
1 
0 
Who is this? 
2 
0 
So Mr. Dershowitz and his family were 
2 
A Oh. That's Ms. Maxwell. 
3 
occupying the house in Palm Beach. and during that 
3 
0 
That's Ghislaine Maxwell? 
4 
period of time Mr. Epstein was not staying at the 
4 
A Yes, sir. 
5 
Palm Beach house? 
5 
O That's somebody who you know? 
6 
A No. 
6 
A Yes, sir. 
7 
O That's correct? 
7 
0 
And you've seen her at the house before? 
a 
A I think he was in jail. 
8 
A 
Yes. 
9 
0 
Oh, okay. This is a tine period when 
9 
0 
All right. And that's the same Ms. Maxwell 
10 
Mr. Epstein was in jail? 
10 
that hired you into the position, correct? 
11 
A (Nodding head). 
11 
A 
Yes. 
12 
0 That Mr. Dershowitz was at the house? 
12 
0 
Do you remember seeing this person? 
13 
A 
Yes. 
13 
A That's Igor. 
14 
0 Okay. Other than that time period -- there 
14 
MR. CRITTON: 'M.' 
15 
was another time period when Mr. Dershowitz was at the 
15 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
16 
house and he was not with his family? 
16 
0 
This is 1-M. 
17 
A 
Yes. 
1? 
And how do you know Igor? 
18 
0 
And how long ago was that? 
18 
A He's now in the house. 
19 
A Oh. I cannot remember when. 
19 
0 
He's now in the house? 
20 
0 
MI right. Was it before Mr. Epstein went to 
20 
A 
Yes. 
21 
jail? 
21 
0 
But when we listed the people. I wanted you to 
22 
A I think after. 
22 
list for me all of the people --
23 
0 
So you think again Mr. Epstein was not in the 
23 
A I forgot. I'm sorry. I forget Igor. 
24 
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24 
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Is there anybody else that you think you 
25 
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A I think this is the only one I forgot. 
2 
O And what is his role in Mr. Epstein's life, if 
3 
you know? 
A He's a driver and he is trainer. 
5 
O Trainer? 
6 
A (Nodding head). 
7 
O What do you mean by that? 
A Because I saw him tolling Mr. Epstein, one 
9 
more lap. 
10 
O One more lap where? 
11 
A In the swimming pool. And he said he's a 
12 
trainer. 
13 
O Who said he's a trainer? 
14 
A Igor. 
15 
O Igor told you that he's a trainer? 
16 
A 
Yes. 
17 
O Okay. Do you know who that is? 
18 
A No. 
19 
O Never seen her before? 
20 
A Never. 
21 
O Affright. 
22 
MR. CRITTON: That's 'N.' 
23 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
24 
O That's 'N.' 
25 
Do you ever remember a girl named Mi 
coming 
115 
1 
A Because he aged. 
2 
MR. CRITTON: He aged? 
3 
THE WITNESS: He aged. 
4 
MR. CRITTON: Okay. 
5 
And this is 'P.' 
6 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
7 
O This is 'P.' 
8 
And this is, just so that you know, a fairly 
9 
recent photograph of him, and you haven't seen him In 
10 
how long? 
11 
A Alter he left Mr. Epstein's employ. 
12 
O So it's been numerous years since you've seen 
13 
this person? 
14 
A Yes. 
15 
O So in fairness to you, that may be the reason 
16 
why you didn't recognize this panicular person? 
17 
A 
Yes. 
18 
O Okay. And if any of these preViOuS 
19 
photographs were taken recently and you hadn't seen the 
20 
person for five years, then that would be a possibility 
21 
as to why you don't recognize that person anymore? 
22 
MR. CRITTON: Form. 
23 
(Telephone ringing.) 
24 
MR. EDWARDS: Jack? 
25 
MR. CRITTON: Jack? 
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1 
to the house? 
2 
A M? 
I heard =. 
3 
O But you never remember seeing somebody in the 
house that somebody referred to as Ilat? 
5 
A No. I don't know their names if they come, I 
6 
don't know their names. 
7 
O But the name in this photograph, which is 11,' 
a 
you don't remember seeing her? 
9 
A No, sir. 
10 
O Do you know who that is? 
11 
A Yes, sir. 
12 
O Who is that? 
13 
A My employer. 
14 
O And that is Mr. Epstein? 
15 
A Mr. Epstein. 
16 
O All right. So Mr. Epstein is 'Or 
17 
A Correct. 
18 
MR. CRITTON: Right. 
19 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
20 
O Do you know who that is? 
21 
A I don't know. 
22 
O Do you remember Alfredo Rodriguez? 
23 
A Oh. That's Alfredo? Oh. yes. 
24 
O Now that you look at the photograph, does it 
25 
look like Alfredo Rodriguez? 
116 
MR. HILL: Hey, guys. I got cut off. Sorry. 
2 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
3 
O This is 'P.' That was Alfredo Rodriguez, 
4 
you've seen him in the house? 
5 
A Yes. 
6 
O How many months was Alfredo Rodriguez working 
7 
there overlapping your employment? 
8 
A I started November, December. and then —
9 
about three months. 
10 
O Okay. Do you know who that is? 
11 
A Oh. You got that from my Facebook? 
12 
a Do you know who that is? 
13 
A That's me. 
14 
O Okay. You recognize that. 
15 
MR. CRITTON: That was 'O.' 
16 
THE WITNESS: Thank you. 
17 
MR. 
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18 
THE WITNESS: My niece made it for me. 
19 
MR. CRITTON: Next is 'R.' 
20 
BY MR. EDWARDS: 
21 
O Do you know who this person is who is labeled 
22 
1•R? 
23 
A No. 
24 
O Never seen that person before? 
25 
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1 
0 
Has Mr. Epstein had anyone in the house that 
1 
0 
Okay. Other than on the news, anybody around 
2 
you remember by the name of Martin? 
2 
the house ever say that? 
3 
A No. 
3 
A President Clinton? No. Lyn and Jojo. 
4 
0 
Have you ever been on Mr. Epstein's planes? 
4 
0 
Lyn and Jojo. What did they say? 
5 
A No. 
5 
A Oh, not him. It's Kerry, Senator Kerry, they 
6 
0 
Do you know this person who we are labeling 
6 
have a picture. 
7 
1-S? 
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A Yes. Clinton? Let me see. Oh, no. 
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Prince Andrew. Have you ever seen 
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Have you ever seen him before? 
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Have you ever heard of the name Todd Meister? 
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That's not somebody you've ever taken a 
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He comes to the house. When you say The comes 
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How long did he stay? 
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Okay. So he stayed overnight at the house? 
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Yes. 
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And was he accompanied by any females? 
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Okay. And was that as a result of him being 
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And did he knock on the door? 
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Yes. 
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Or does he have a key? 
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There is a combination to one of the doors to 
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Yes. 
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And Story Cowles is one of the people who has 
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Yes. 
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O Excuse me? 
A Me. 
O Okay. 
A Janusz. 
O Okay. 
A Igor. 
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O And when Story came to Mr. Epstein's house 
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THE WITNESS: How long ago? 
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MR. CRITTON: Are you done? 
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O Right. This whole back and forth started with 
me asking you when is the first time that you ever saw 
Story. And I thought you responded by telling me that 
he came to the house for the first time without 
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jail? 
MR. CRITTON: Form. She said she didn't know. 
THE WITNESS: I did not hear anything. 
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questions. 
MR. EDWARDS: Well be another thirty minutes 
at least. 
MR. HILL: 1 might just get in the car and 
shoot over there. 
MR. EDWARDS: I think we're taking a break 
tight now anyway. 
MR. CRITTON: Well, if we're going to take a 
break, then I want to do a lunch break. I've got 
some stuff I have to do. If we're only going to be 
fifteen or twenty minutes. that's fine. But if 
we're going to go another half hour, let's take a 
lunch break. 
MR. EDWARDS: It's going to take a while. 
MR. CRITTON: So let's take a lunch break. 
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