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The first time 
flew on his private jet was to New 
York. Her first trip to New Mexico a driver picked her up at her 
house and drove 
to EPSTEIN's palm beach house. 
Once at his house they traveled to the airport together from 
there. 
is not sure who drove to the airport. She 
recalls that when they typically arrive at the airport they would 
drive right up to the plane. She recalls sitting in the back seat 
of the car with EPSTEIN. On at least one occasion EPSTEIN sat 
in the front of the car and was not driving, while MAXWELL sat 
in the back with her. Typically, EPSTEIN would just get out of 
the car and everyone was just expected to follow him. 
was then asked about flight records and her first 
flight on his private jet. 
thinks it was to New York, and 
several people were on this flight. 
is pretty sure that 
EPSTEIN's brother was on this flight, and maybe his mother. 
Others on the flight she didn't know. 
was then asked names of people that were on 
these flight records and if she recalls knowing them. Her 
answers were as follows: 
Sophie? —yes 
Jeff Schantz? —no 
Eva? —yes...she was his ex-girlfriend and they stayed friends. 
met her a few times and is not sure if she was part of 
the massages. 
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was then asked if she recalls the next private jet 
flight. She thinks that it was to New York. She thinks that the 
3rd flight may have been to New Mexico. 
was asked if she remembers flying from New York 
to New Mexico to which she answers yes. There was a couple 
other people on the plane. The chef may have come with 2 
other men possibly. 
was asked about the time that she flew to New 
Mexico with just EPSTEIN and MAXWELL, "could that have been 
from New York?". 
responds "yes". 
was asked if she remembers how she got to New 
York first. 
states she may have flown up from Florida 
to New York for the New Mexico trip. Although she is not 
totally sure of that. 
was asked about her first New Mexico trip and 
what activities she did. 
recalls there being horses 
around. She recalls going hiking. She remembers not doing too 
much and just sitting around mostly. She does not recall 
specific abuse that may have occurred. 
does no 
remember if EPSTEIN had a massage room in his New Mexico 
home but does he probably had one. 
was asked if she recalls any specific abuse that 
occurred in New Mexico and she states she is not sure. The 
place was dark and she does not recall much details of this 
location. If there was abuse that occurred there it wouldn't 
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have been a group thing, but she cannot recall anything 
specific. 
had her own room in New Mexico. New 
Mexico was the foggy of memories for 
was asked if there was ever a time when EPSTEIN 
came into her room while in New Mexico and she responds 
"no". 
was asked if she remembers how she left New 
Mexico the first weekend she stayed there. 
says no 
but on at least one trip home from New Mexico she flew 
commercially. 
had to be driven to the airport. 
would have had to be home in time for school, she 
recalls travelling all day on Sunday. 
was asked about a flight that she took on a Friday 
in 1997 from New Jersey (Teterboro) to New Mexico. She is 
asked if she remembers leaving at the end of the weekend. She 
states that there was a driver who brought her to the airport. 
In New York 
recalls that EPSTEIN had a driver who 
was originally from Tibet. Her first trip to New York was to just 
go and have fun. This may have been the trip that she went to 
see the Lion King. There were some other persons on this flight 
who may have just been "catching a ride". On this first trip to 
New York MAXWELL and EPSTEIN picked out an outfit for her 
which was comprised of penny loafers, a Ralph Lauren sweater 
and plaid pants. 
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was asked if she recalls a flight she took from 
Florida to New York on a Monday. She says that this doesn't 
stick out in her mind specifically. EPSTEIN did not typically want 
to miss school. 
is asked about a flight from New Mexico to 
Florida that she took in 2001. 
states that this is 
probably the last time she saw him. It was shortly after this 
that she had "that boyfriend". At the time she was living in Los 
Angeles. She may have had time off from work to be able to 
travel. 
would typically get a few weeks off from 
shooting for the TV show around holidays. EPSTEIN was coming 
to Los Angeles with a bunch of people and told 
she 
had to come with him on this trip. 
felt she was being 
treated as an adult that doesn't need to get involved anymore. 
They flew to New Mexico from Los Angeles on his jet, or 
perhaps a charter BJOLRIN is not sure. Then the flow from New 
Mexico to Florida. 
feels as though EPSTEIN may have 
been showing her off. They only spent about a day in New 
Mexico and then about 2 days in Florida. After this trip 
flew back to Los Angeles on her own. 
was then asked if she knows the following 
persons: 
HENRY GEREKY? —sounds familiar 
MARIA MINSKY? —no 
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was asked about a flight that she was on in May 
of 1998 from Florida to New York. She was asked if the 
following persons were on this flight: 
? —maybe 
? —yes, I think so. 
then states that she liked—. 
They hung out 
and she was nice. 
thought she was so cool. MICHELLE 
was a friend o1 
and they would all sometimes go out 
drinking together. MICHELLE introduced 
to the drink 
the White Russian. 
was involved in the sexual conduct 
with EPSTEIN. MICHELLE may have worked for EPSTEIN's 
company and not sure if she was involved in the abuse. 
took orders sexually from both EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. 
had very large, nice and impressive breasts that 
recalls 
seeing. This happened in either Florida or New York. 
MAXWELL tells 
she is told. 
what to do but is not exactly sure what 
is asked if MAXWELL would tell her what to do. 
thinks she may have coached or taught her what to do. 
is asked how specific were the instructions given to 
her. 
believes the instructions were given physically 
and not as much verbally. She was guided as to where on 
EPSTEIN' body she should massage. 
is asked if MAXWELL was present for the "4 
options" (masturbation, hand job, oral sex and sex) that 
EPSTEIN would do with other women in the massage room and 
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answers yes. 
is then asked if MAXWELL was 
present for when any of these "4 options" were performed on 
her and she responded "I can't remember". MAXWELL's roll 
was to normalize it all. MAXWELL wouldn't talk about the sex 
acts before or after. In the beginning 
was on the foot 
massage duty so she could watch and learn how to do all the 
other stuff. 
was asked if MAXWELL knew that EPSTEIN was 
having sex with her and she responds yes. MAXWELL was 
witness to all the instances that happened in the room. 
MAXWELL was never present when EPSTEIN had sex with 
cannot remember if MAXWELL was ever 
present for instances of oral sex or hand jobs with EPSTEIN and 
recalls that MAXWELL was present for when 
was pinching EPSTEIN's nipples while he masturbated. 
At this time EPSTEIN was touching 
on her breasts and 
her butt, although she does not recall if EPSTEIN touched her 
vagina at this time. MAXWELL may have been present when 
EPSTEIN used a vibrator on 
vagina. 
MAXWELL may have given 
a vibrator in a box for 
Christmas. 
threw it out because she was living at 
home, was in high school and was embarrassed. This happened 
while she was either living in Palm Beach or New York. 
was asked if MAXWELL ever touched or kissed her 
to which she answers "I don't think so". 
says "know 
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your audience" on why MAXWELL may have kissed other girls 
and not 
. Certain girls didn't have a problem with it as 
much as some other girls. This may have been based on their 
sexual experiences, background and willingness. 
EPSTEIN was mildly sexual with 
in front of other 
people, including MAXWELL. Maybe at most 
put her 
hand on his penis. 
MAXWELL bragged about who she dated and her 
conquests. MAXWELL was the female version of EPSTEIN. 
MAXWELL talked about her sexual interactions with other 
people but not about her sexual interactions with EPSTEIN. 
did not notice any sexual energy between EPSTEIN and 
MAXWELL. They seemed to be like partners in crime. 
MAXWELL in general would be direct, although 
cannot remember specifics. 
was asked about the New Mexico trips she took 
and if she recalls and specific abuse that occurred there to 
which she answers she does not remember. MAXWELL would 
have been present for oral sex that occurred with other 
individuals, yes. 
is not sure, but its possible that 
MAXWELL was present for oral sex with EPSTEIN and 
MAXWELL was present for occasions in with Florida and 
New York in which others performed oral sex on EPSTEIN. 
recalls a group massage instance that occurred at 
shutters on the beach in California. One of the girls gets upset 
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and does not want to give a massage. She cries because she 
has a boyfriend. MAXWELL was not present for this. There 
may have been another incident in which a girl got upset or was 
apprehensive about getting involved with the massages. 
met HARVEY WEINSTEIN at a golden globes party 
while with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN introduces 
to WEINSTEIN 
and states "hands off my girl". EPSTEIN and WEINSTEIN laugh. 
is asked about Interlochen, and how she turned 
14 that summer that she met EPSTEIN while attending the 
academy. She is asked is it possible that she met EPSTEIN after 
she turned 14 to which she responds yes. 
states she 
based meeting him at 13 years old because it was the summer 
and she was at summer camp. Her birthday is in August and 
she thought that it was before her birthday. 
She was still living in Florida and still 14 years old when a 
fair amount of the abuse happened to her. At some point 
MAXWELL and EPSTEIN came to 
house prior to the 
abuse. While still 14 
has the interaction with the 
photographer. 
is 14 when the group massage abuse 
happens involving MAXWELL. While still 14 the pace of things 
moved fairly quickly with EPSTEIN. 
touched EPSTEIN's 
penis right after the pool house visit. It started to be expected 
that something always will happen when 
would go to 
visit EPSTEIN. MAXWELL was usually present for this in the 
beginning. 
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EPSTEIN would usually just grab 
with me" when he was going to abuse her. 
and say "come 
was asked 
if MAXWELL would ever follow her up with EPSTEIN when the 
abuse occurred. 
says probably about once. There 
were times when MAXWELL was present and EPSTEIN took 
for abuse upstairs. There were also times where 
MAXWELL told 
that EPSTEIN "wants to see you" which 
then lead to abuse. There were times when 
was 
directed to the massage room by MAXWELL when there was 
someone else already there. 
Oral sex with EPSTEIN took about a year to happen. This 
happened when they were still in Florida. 
was 18 while attending the professional children's 
school. 
The rape incident happened in New York. 
is not 
sure where she was living at the time. 
thinks she was 
staying with EPSTEIN though at the time. She was visiting him 
and recalls going back to her room after the incident. 
did have a pregnancy concerns. 
did not talk to anyone 
about this. At one time 
did not have her period for 
about 6 months so she bought a pregnancy test. EPSTEIN never 
used protection and 
was not on birth control. 
This type of assault (rape) continued while 
was 
living in New York (45 Wall Street). 
is not sure if 
MAXWELL or EPSTEIN ever visited her while she lived there. 
They visited 
1-2 times at her house in Florida. This was 
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about a year or 2 after meeting him. From when 
met 
EPSTEIN to when she moved to New York she lived in the same 
house in Florida. This house was in a gated community called 
"Bear Lakes". It was a 3-bedroom house. 
During the summer of 1994, 1995 and 1996 
attended Interlochen summer camp. During the summer of 
1997 she attended Tanglewood summer camp outside of 
Boston. The summer before her senior year (1998) 
spent all in New York. She was 17 going on 18 years old this 
summer. 
stayed in one of EPSTEIN's apartments 
during this summer. She also stayed in his mansion for a bit 
before moving into 45 Wall Street prior to her starting school. 
This summer it was her responsibility to find her and her other 
a place to stay. 
was not sure if EPSTEIN was going to 
pay for this apartment or not. She just looked for the cheapest 
place to live that had 2 bedrooms. Eventually 
tells 
EPSTEIN that she found an apartment. 
is not sure how 
she found this. EPSTEIN may have had someone help her out 
but she's not sure. 
is asked about the Miss Teen USA pageant she 
participated in. 
states that her mother forced her to 
do this and she didn't want to. A Swedish friend of 
mother helped with this. She was a modelling agent in Florida. 
This pageant was not EPSTEIN related. 
recalls this 
happened prior to her senior year. She remembers dress 
shopping with her mother in Palm Beach. They bought a dress 
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and 
hated it. 
is asked if she recalls her sister 
helping with this at all to which she says no. 
recalls 
meeting her sister in New York at some point. Her sister came 
to EPSTEIN's mansion. Her sister wasn't really around much at 
the time. She is 10 years older than 
and had 3 kids at 
the time and lived in Boston. 
does not remember the 
context of her sisters visit to EPSTEIN's mansion. 
is asked about MAXWELL making threats. 
states that these were scolding, stern phone calls for 
being ungrateful. MAXWELL would set up appointments and 
make travel arrangements. She would talk about when and 
how they would travel. MAXWELL would discuss logistics. She 
would make travel arrangements for commercial flights that 
would take. 
would hear MAXWELL on the 
phone booking flights. She's not sure exactly who MAXWELL 
was talking to but she did make these calls. MAXWELL would 
talk to 
about upcoming trips. 
does not recall 
word for word what these conversations were. 
is asked if she recalls when travelling from one 
place to another did sexual abuse occur on the other end and 
she responds but stating "yes". 
states that it always 
occurred on the other end. There was maybe 1-2 times that it 
did not occur. 
is asked if during her first trip to New York, did 
abuse happen and she responds "yes but I don't specifically 
remember that abuse". 
is not sure how she got back 
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home the first time. 
is she recalls having any particular 
feelings on her first trip home from New York and she states 
not that she recalls. 
is asked if there are any times 
that when leaving New York that she felt relieved to which she 
states "every time". 
states that generally every time 
she traveled with them she was abused. Both 1 on 1 and in 
groups. MAXWELL was involved in the group sex that occurred 
in New York. 
is asked about the incident in which EPSTEIN was 
touching her breasts with MAXWELL present, and if she recalls 
where that happened. 
states that it may have 
happened in Florida. 
is asked about when things escalated to oral sex 
recalls that that started with the 1 on 1 
with EPSTEIN. 
incidents. 
MAXWELL did not discuss the abuse afterwards, or ask 
how it was. 
was asked about a TRUMP allegation of sexual 
abuse. 
states no. There was some picture circulating 
of 
with a different name associated with it saying that 
she was a victim of TRUMP but this was not true. 
states that at first she was not afraid of EPSTEIN. 
Once she broke free from him 
was not sure what he 
would do. After breaking free from him she did not learn of any 
additional victims of his. 
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recalls reading some things about girls 
disappearing but this turned out to be hearsay from 
attorney. 
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